Host: PleaseWakeMeUp Idler
January 14, 2008
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Tonight at Art Talk we're having a Rez and Critique
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I promised handouts, critique guidelines but I screwed up, sorry.
Sojourner Timeless: hi, sorry, should i sit?
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: First up is Filthy and then Isolde
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Sit or stand as you prefer
Filthy Fluno: well guys
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: So Filthy, rez and talk, people let him talk some then starting yammering away at him.
Filthy Fluno: tonight i'm gonna attempt to talk about a painting
Filthy Fluno: called chola
Filthy Fluno: but i can't build
Filthy Fluno: one sec
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: oh no
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I can build
Gracie Kendal: LOL
Gracie Kendal: hes the owner too
Gracie Kendal: LOL
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: coup!
Filthy Fluno: yea weird
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: want to pass it to me?
Filthy Fluno: there we go
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I have Isolde's already
Filthy Fluno: this painting is a big departure for me in many ways
Filthy Fluno: but has soooo much to do with how i collab and network here in sl
Filthy Fluno: so
Filthy Fluno: i met this collector in SL
Filthy Fluno: name will remain unmentioned
Filthy Fluno: and he's been mentoring me and whatnot
Sojourner Timeless: did you grow a giant afro just to display this particular piece?
Filthy Fluno: and says.. filthy.. time to do oil painting
Filthy Fluno: please keep dum questions like that til the end
Filthy Fluno: lol
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ha!
Sojourner Timeless: fair enuff
Filthy Fluno: lol
Filthy Fluno: so essentially
Filthy Fluno: he's nudging me the last year to paint in oils
Filthy Fluno: i usually do pastel work
Filthy Fluno: anyway
Filthy Fluno: so... i decide to make a painting
Filthy Fluno: to the size he asks
Filthy Fluno: not the subject matter mind you
Filthy Fluno: so.. since i'm very new to oils
Sky Hye: And what size is that, Filthy?
Filthy Fluno: i take the "play" approach
Filthy Fluno: sky.. its only 2 x 4 ft
Filthy Fluno: which is big for me
Filthy Fluno: well.. i've done bigger drawings
Filthy Fluno: so i create the one on the right
Filthy Fluno: maybe 3 weeks worth of painting
Sojourner Timeless: in the not so dumb question dept, are you influenced by picasso?
Filthy Fluno: yes
Filthy Fluno: i am influenced by him
Filthy Fluno: kinda like how most regular people that drive cars are influenced by mario andretti
Filthy Fluno: know what i mean?
Cosmica Mornington: ha!
Filthy Fluno: or.. one of them nascar champs
cinnamon Daniels: he does now
Jeanni Nishi: :)
Sojourner Timeless: you are also influenced by caffeine?
Larkum Woodget: I don't drive
Filthy Fluno: lots of caffeine
Larkum Woodget: Mario who ? LOL
Sky Hye: And I'm waiting to hear about the one on the left. Must be a new iteration?
Filthy Fluno: yes sky
Sky Hye: Paint over, right?
Filthy Fluno: so i send my mentor this piece on the right
Filthy Fluno: just to say
Filthy Fluno: what you think
Filthy Fluno: and
Filthy Fluno: hes sends me back
Filthy Fluno: this...
Sojourner Timeless: is it a copy?
Sky Hye: Aack
Filthy Fluno: doing this through SL btw
Filthy Fluno: lol
Larkum Woodget: the blue is the only thing that doesn't say "CADMIUM!"
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: he painted it or photoshopped it?
Filthy Fluno: yea.. the photo isn't great
Filthy Fluno: he photshopped it!
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: phew...
Filthy Fluno: anyway.. i still bit his head off
Sojourner Timeless: he took out part of it?
Filthy Fluno: HOW DARE YOU CHANGE MY ARTWORK.. .and all that artsy fartsy ego stuff
Filthy Fluno: yes
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ha!
Filthy Fluno: so
Jeanni Nishi: he mucked with your painting????
Filthy Fluno: he did indeed
Filthy Fluno: lmao
Filthy Fluno: ok
Filthy Fluno: here's when the story gets good
Sojourner Timeless: but he didn't change the original?
Filthy Fluno: no
Filthy Fluno: i mean
Gracie Kendal: But, he's yoru mentor..so hes supposed to point you in different directions too
Filthy Fluno: i know what he's saying with his edit
Filthy Fluno: yes gracie
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: got it
Filthy Fluno: i trust his eye
Filthy Fluno: to a certain extent
Filthy Fluno: anyway
Filthy Fluno: i went to see him this past weekend
Filthy Fluno: with the painting
Sojourner Timeless: wow, he's bold
Filthy Fluno: he's very bod
Filthy Fluno: bold
Filthy Fluno: VERY
Filthy Fluno: which is why i likehim
Filthy Fluno: :)
Sojourner Timeless: yeah a wimp would be much worse
Filthy Fluno: he can back it up
Filthy Fluno: i get to his house this weekend
Filthy Fluno: bring in the painting
Filthy Fluno: anywho
Filthy Fluno: hang it inhis gallery
Filthy Fluno: and we talk about it
Filthy Fluno: now.. this remindyou.. is all from SL connection
Sojourner Timeless: may i ask if it's east or west coast?
Filthy Fluno: east coast
Filthy Fluno: so... the painting on the left here
Filthy Fluno: is the final piece
Larkum Woodget: Hi Isolde
Filthy Fluno: and i'm absolutely 100% positive its finished and doing what i want it to do
Isolde Flamand: (sorry, I crashed)
Filthy Fluno: which i think is important
Filthy Fluno: because what we have ehre
Larkum Woodget: I'm thinking of a Mullah with dusty fingers
Filthy Fluno: is a narrative
Filthy Fluno: which is important to the final piece
Filthy Fluno: and a virtual counterpART to the story of the artwork
Filthy Fluno: the two elements that mymentor erased
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: has he seen the left one?
Filthy Fluno: yes
Filthy Fluno: he beat me up on it for hours
Filthy Fluno: how its not a resolved painting
Sky Hye: hmm
Sojourner Timeless: it's warm while the first was cool
Filthy Fluno: and his wife (a very established painter and artist in her own right) totally agreed
Gracie Kendal: hmmmmmmmm
Larkum Woodget: It's uncomfortable- but so what what- is art about comfort?
Filthy Fluno: and then i realized that the very fact they both thought it was resolved convinced me more that it WAS involved
Filthy Fluno: not
Filthy Fluno: not comfortable
Sky Hye: I wonder if they are speaking of the paint, itself. The composition seems tight.
Filthy Fluno: they speak of the comp
Filthy Fluno: and i agree with them
Larkum Woodget: so do I
Filthy Fluno: until
Filthy Fluno: what the stuff on the left does is make it important to contemporary art
Filthy Fluno: i think
Filthy Fluno: if i can be so bold
Filthy Fluno: :)
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: how so?
Gracie Kendal: why do you say that?
Filthy Fluno: the left elements say... this is something new but relevant
Filthy Fluno: like the thought bubbles in a comic
Filthy Fluno: only done in an abstract manner
Filthy Fluno: they belong
Filthy Fluno: help define a story
Larkum Woodget: Hi Scarp
Filthy Fluno: and at the same time
Filthy Fluno: they are something different on the surface
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: hello, welcome to Art Talk, have a seat
Scarp Godenot: Hi ho
Filthy Fluno: just as my artwork has virtual counterparts
Filthy Fluno: these two elements on the left speak to the viewer
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: are you saying that the process, the temporal nature of it, defines it?
Filthy Fluno: and i think only the viewer
Filthy Fluno: not really wake
Filthy Fluno: i mean
Filthy Fluno: i'm always saying that in my drawings
Filthy Fluno: but this here is different
Filthy Fluno: largely in part because of the reactions i got from these two people
Filthy Fluno: i mean... its not the most gorgeous thing I've ever made
Filthy Fluno: but it deals with paint as paint
Filthy Fluno: and line as line
Filthy Fluno: so that's always happening
Gracie Kendal: yes, but taht is a modern concept over a contemporary one...
Filthy Fluno: yes gracie
Filthy Fluno: that's where i'm getting at i think
Filthy Fluno: i mean honestly... i haven't worked it all out yet
Sojourner Timeless: may i make an irreverent comment?
Filthy Fluno: but this painting is really huge step for me
Larkum Woodget: lol - if you have to ask...
Filthy Fluno: go ahead sojo
Filthy Fluno: this is open talk
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ANd folks, don't worry about the time, Isolde can stay later, so no worries
Sojourner Timeless: well this is killing me but the "L" on the left is from Laverne and SHirley isn't it?
Filthy Fluno: lol
Sojourner Timeless: oop the right
Filthy Fluno: that's a great observation man
Filthy Fluno: not conscoiusly
cinnamon Daniels: can i make a comment filty?
Filthy Fluno: but.. i see that
Filthy Fluno: please yes comment please!!
Filthy Fluno: thank you !
Filthy Fluno: i want your comments!
cinnamon Daniels: first impressions
Filthy Fluno: cinn
Filthy Fluno: are you an artist?
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yes, folks, fire when ready
cinnamon Daniels: some sort of homage to miro
Sojourner Timeless: I love that, the lone wolf
cinnamon Daniels: in a way yes
cinnamon Daniels: oil on canvass
cinnamon Daniels: anyway
Filthy Fluno: homage to miro
Filthy Fluno: i see that
Filthy Fluno: k
Filthy Fluno: sure
cinnamon Daniels: homage to miro
Sky Hye: Can you repeat what it was that your mentor and his wife were insisting on?
cinnamon Daniels: especially black lines
Filthy Fluno: homage also to kline
cinnamon Daniels: BUT
cinnamon Daniels: BUT
Filthy Fluno: but?
Gracie Kendal: yea...but......
Filthy Fluno: butbut?
Gracie Kendal: why talk about other artists....where is the Filthy???
Larkum Woodget: the images on the right are clearly unfinished
cinnamon Daniels: i think that sun in the upper right area is unforgivable
Gracie Kendal: you said the virtual....
Larkum Woodget: from a "museum quality" point of view
Gracie Kendal: that is what I want to see more of....
Gracie Kendal: this has been done over and over again
Larkum Woodget: I think that's what they meant yes?
Gracie Kendal: LOL thats so elitist
Filthy Fluno: what has been done over and over again?
Larkum Woodget: well like it or not art is elitist
Gracie Kendal: i guess the modern concept....
Larkum Woodget: not eveyone can do it actually
Gracie Kendal: LOL no, but that doesnt make it elitist....
Filthy Fluno: let me also explain
Gracie Kendal: I;m a true postmodernist
Gracie Kendal: hmmmmm....
Filthy Fluno: that there is a HUGE treatment to the surface here
Sojourner Timeless: is it textured?
Filthy Fluno: lots of stuff coming off of it
Filthy Fluno: yes
Filthy Fluno: lots of texture
cinnamon Daniels: dry cloth?
Larkum Woodget: brb
Sky Hye: Please explain your mentor's complaint.
Filthy Fluno: maybe you can see it there
Filthy Fluno: maybe not
Sky Hye: I see all the texture.
Jeanni Nishi: I can see blobs /textures on the newer painting///
Filthy Fluno: complaint was the two details i show here.. they are more embellishment
Jeanni Nishi: bu mostly around the black lines
Sojourner Timeless: hey is that a yellow car at the top on the left?
Gracie Kendal: Does it have a title?
Filthy Fluno: yes
cinnamon Daniels: chola?
Filthy Fluno: the title is Chola
Gracie Kendal: oh yes
Jeanni Nishi: you painted on the original one, correct/
Filthy Fluno: you all know waht chola is
Filthy Fluno: yes
Jeanni Nishi: ?
Sojourner Timeless: no
Scarp Godenot: Crashed..
Sojourner Timeless: oh plaid shirt buttoned at the top?
Filthy Fluno: sojourner?
Filthy Fluno: are you an artist?
Sky Hye: Are you speaking of the scribble through the wet paint?
Filthy Fluno: yes sky
Sky Hye: Okay...
Filthy Fluno: there is lots of scribble throughout the wet paint
Filthy Fluno: but
Sojourner Timeless: me? an artist? i've had moments...
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: what's a chola?
Filthy Fluno: the scribble in the bottom left
Filthy Fluno: makes the viewer see letters
Filthy Fluno: i believe
Filthy Fluno: like
Filthy Fluno: its the talk bubble of a comic
Filthy Fluno: someone may see "W"
Jeanni Nishi: the scribble in the bottom left looks the most like your pastels...
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ahhhh
Sky Hye: I don't see that, Filthy.
Filthy Fluno: ok sky
Sky Hye: Never in a million years
Filthy Fluno: what do you see
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: fingers
Sky Hye: Some interesting use of paint.
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Finger that go with the portrait
Sky Hye: Somewhat of a try at an idea, but missing
Scarp Godenot: I see letters.
Sky Hye: The paint was too wet.
Sky Hye: The tool, not quite the right now.
Sky Hye: one
Filthy Fluno: hmmmm
Filthy Fluno: i'll take that comment on the chin
Filthy Fluno: :)
Jeanni Nishi: is this your first try at oils, Filthy?
Filthy Fluno: no
Filthy Fluno: second try
Sky Hye: There is nothing wrong with scribbing in wet paint.
Jeanni Nishi: I find them difficult--- I don't understnd how to work with oils...
Filthy Fluno: the first one was an attempt just to do what I do with pastels in oil
Filthy Fluno: this one
Sky Hye: Right. I see that.
Filthy Fluno: was to do an oil painting
Scarp Godenot: What size is the original?
Filthy Fluno: 2 x 4 ft
Sky Hye: You can wait for the paint to stiffen up a bit before your scratch back into it.
Filthy Fluno: larkum
Larkum Woodget: start thin end fat
Filthy Fluno: sky.. its tough for me to wait
Sky Hye: Then you'll get the effect that will look complete.
Filthy Fluno: lol
Larkum Woodget: ?
Filthy Fluno: but i know hat you mean
Sky Hye: You can speed the drying.
Sky Hye: Use Wingel
Filthy Fluno: writes that down
Sky Hye: Add solids
Filthy Fluno: ok
Jeanni Nishi: Filthy is, perhaps, more used to working with a medium that doesn't bleed and muddy...
Sky Hye: Add CaCO3
Filthy Fluno: oy vey sky
Sky Hye: haha
Filthy Fluno: you had me at nwingel
Sky Hye: Calcium Carbonate
Gracie Kendal: lol
Filthy Fluno: any more than that we need to email
cinnamon Daniels: one of the joys of oils is wet on wet technique sir, (re van gogh)
Filthy Fluno: wet on wet
Sky Hye: Stiffer paint. Add more pigment.
Filthy Fluno: yea true
Larkum Woodget: bk by the way
Filthy Fluno: k
Jeanni Nishi: for you, Cinn, it's joy--- for m, it is pain :)
Filthy Fluno: yea
Filthy Fluno: oil=pain
Filthy Fluno: but
Filthy Fluno: i need to do it
Filthy Fluno: so...
Filthy Fluno: here's how cool my mentor is
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: why did you need to do it?
Filthy Fluno: he says...
Sojourner Timeless: y'know in fairness, when you don't know the tricks, you tend to be more innovative
Filthy Fluno: ok jeff... i want this painting
Jeanni Nishi: then.. I think the key may be patience... letting things dry...
Filthy Fluno: not now though
Filthy Fluno: take it back
Filthy Fluno: put it on your wall
Filthy Fluno: and make 2 more paintings based on what you're doing ehre
Filthy Fluno: then bring them all to me
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: that's great!
Filthy Fluno: yes
Filthy Fluno: this is why i love SL
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: that's awesome
Jeanni Nishi: that is a happy approach :)
Larkum Woodget: Hi Jazz
Jazz Calhern: Hello everyone
Filthy Fluno: it allows us to collab and network and crit
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: hello Jazz
Isolde Flamand: hi Jazz
Jazz Calhern: am I dancing on the table? lol
Filthy Fluno: and get awesome feedback from peeps like y'all
Gracie Kendal: Hi Jazz :)
Gracie Kendal: brb
Jazz Calhern: Hey Gracie :)
Jeanni Nishi: so, Filthy, is there a part of this painting that you love the most?
Sojourner Timeless: hi
Filthy Fluno: i love it alll
Filthy Fluno: its sings to me
Filthy Fluno: like i know i will do something great because of it
Sky Hye: You've got the oil bug now, Filthy
Filthy Fluno: NOOOOO!
Filthy Fluno: i have three drawing i need to make
Sojourner Timeless: wow a turning point in your world?
Filthy Fluno: !!!
Filthy Fluno: yes sojourner
Filthy Fluno: big turning point
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'm glad we could share it with you, very cool
Sojourner Timeless: beautiful
Jeanni Nishi: well, I love the scribbling you did around the L
Filthy Fluno: cool
Filthy Fluno: honestly
Filthy Fluno: its not really scribbline over there
Sky Hye: May I suggest a change in your brushes, Filthy.
cinnamon Daniels: well if i may suggest something
Filthy Fluno: most of it is very intentional
Filthy Fluno: placed lines through the wet paint
Filthy Fluno: to pick up a highlight
Filthy Fluno: and turn the line
Filthy Fluno: in space
Filthy Fluno: please
Jeanni Nishi: yes, I think it is rather... exciting :)
Filthy Fluno: suggest away cinn
cinnamon Daniels: use the knife more
cinnamon Daniels: and be braver
Filthy Fluno: ok
Filthy Fluno: great advice
Sky Hye: You need to use stiffer bristle brushes for some of these passages.
Filthy Fluno: always great advice
cinnamon Daniels: you have to be braver#
cinnamon Daniels: i think this lacks some confidence
cinnamon Daniels: with respect
Filthy Fluno: you hit it totally
Filthy Fluno: i'm not confident with oils
Filthy Fluno: but i am with composition
Filthy Fluno: so yes
Sojourner Timeless: don't be afraid to do a dance between brave and coy, though
Filthy Fluno: lol
Filthy Fluno: ok
Sojourner Timeless: ==]
Filthy Fluno: how's this
Filthy Fluno: too brave?
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ok folks, any last comments? i'm watching the clock sadly....
Filthy Fluno: yea
Filthy Fluno: thanks you guys
Sojourner Timeless: nice dance, brave, and cheery
Filthy Fluno: sersiously
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: thank you!!!!
Filthy Fluno: at least i didn't get the usual
Filthy Fluno: omg that's so nice
Filthy Fluno: i rather someone come out and say they hate it
Sojourner Timeless: a serendipitous occasion
Filthy Fluno: so thanks again
Filthy Fluno: its selling for $2k
Sky Hye: :)
Sojourner Timeless: thanks for sharing
Filthy Fluno: if anyone wants it
Filthy Fluno: lol
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ok
cinnamon Daniels: underpriced sir
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: next up is Isolde!
Komuso Tokugawa: hey pixel peeps
Sojourner Timeless: he's gone
Isolde Flamand waves
Filthy Fluno: cinn.. you want it for 3k?
Komuso Tokugawa: drummer?
Komuso Tokugawa: lol
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Isolde, can you say a few words, we all know Filthy. I'll rez Wastelands first.
cinnamon Daniels: with your name
Isolde Flamand: ok
Jeanni Nishi: Hello, Komu :)
cinnamon Daniels: at least 5k
Larkum Woodget: Hi Komuso and Shoshana
Isolde Flamand: Hi, I'm Isolde
Isolde Flamand: lol
Shoshana Epsilon waves
Filthy Fluno: cinn
Komuso Tokugawa: hiya
Filthy Fluno: you help me get that
Isolde Flamand: um, I started doing photos in SL about 9 months ago
Tyrol Rimbaud: / 'Lo Ko!
Jazz Calhern: ,,
Isolde Flamand: i did took this pic at the Wastelands sim
Sojourner Timeless: oh there you are, i thought you left, doing
Isolde Flamand: about October I think
Isolde Flamand: I use GIMP which is similar to photoshop, but open source
Larkum Woodget: windlight?
Isolde Flamand: no , this is the reg viewer
Jeanni Nishi: Gimp works fine
Larkum Woodget: nice and moody
Isolde Flamand: I intensified teh colors a bit, if I remember correctly
Jeanni Nishi: you got that water in the regular???
Isolde Flamand: yes
Isolde Flamand: you can tell its the rregular viewer because of the double horizon line
Isolde Flamand: you can take that out in client
Tyrol Rimbaud: / I would suggest it may need balance on the right
Isolde Flamand: I forgot
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: you need a new video card Jeanni....
Komuso Tokugawa: incoming...brb
Jeanni Nishi: so true, Wake...
Isolde Flamand: I had intended this to be a base pic for a compositie
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I disagree, the right is so open, inviting.
Isolde Flamand: but it looked kinda bleak, so I left it
Sky Hye: Inviting?
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yes, inviting exploration
Tyrol Rimbaud: / only the eye has nothing to focus on there
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: the sea, the sand. You see...
Jazz Calhern: And the sunset and the water balances enough...
Tyrol Rimbaud: / continually drawn back to the object
Jeanni Nishi: the sunset is the balance, I think
Filthy Fluno: i'm loking for another element in here to give it some oooomph for me
Jazz Calhern: the structure is pointing into the sunset
Filthy Fluno: maybe just in the lighting
Filthy Fluno: or the texture pop
Isolde Flamand: so you are searching??
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Sherpa, who isn't here tonight, spend two weeks in a Dune Shack at the Cape Cod Nationas seashore on a writing fellowship. This piece spoke to her, she bought it the moment she saw it.
Isolde Flamand: the whole thing is an open question
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: This is what it is like out there, so big.
Jeanni Nishi: and the waves of sand move the eye...
Isolde Flamand: what happened here? Where is everyone? what is this place?
Filthy Fluno: its an sl beach front with a rusty thing.. torpedo? vehicle?
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yeah, you don't know, that's what draws me to it. There is a story here.
Jeanni Nishi: yes
Sky Hye: Yes, there is a story
Jazz Calhern: It's intriguing...what is that structure?
Isolde Flamand: I have no idea
Jeanni Nishi: is it large?
Sojourner Timeless: it does one thing well, it works your eye in a circle so you follow the object, the horizone, the right edge, the sand, back to the object
Filthy Fluno: good answer
Filthy Fluno: :)
Jeanni Nishi: I like that I do not know if it is big or little :)
Isolde Flamand: now you have another question
Filthy Fluno: it is big
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: big
Sojourner Timeless: what is it??
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: oil drums inront
Jeanni Nishi: dang--- now I know!!!
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: sorry...
Tyrol Rimbaud: / not unlike a whale washed up on a virutal beach
Isolde Flamand: :-)
Filthy Fluno: about the size of like... the fishing boat in jaws I
Larkum Woodget: who made it?
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: mayb micro oil drums?
Sky Hye: Who made the object?
Larkum Woodget: yeah
Isolde Flamand: Its in the sim Wastelands
Tyrol Rimbaud: / or a walrus looking out to the sea
Isolde Flamand: I think lots of people create there
Scarp Godenot: Who are the REZZABLE artists these days?
Filthy Fluno: does "wastelnds" refer to the t.s eliot wastelands?
Sky Hye: Wastelands is a great sim. The textures are great.
Larkum Woodget: it looks like A.M.Radio's work or maybe Arcadia asylum
Isolde Flamand: its like a Mad Max set out there
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I so gotta go...
Filthy Fluno: yes
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: there
Filthy Fluno: mad max
Cosmica Mornington: yeah the Wastelands is great
Jeanni Nishi: irony: lots of people creating in the wastelands...
Isolde Flamand: very post apocalyptic, dry and deserted
Jazz Calhern: planet of the apes is what I keep thinking of
Sky Hye: I'll go with you wake.
Cosmica Mornington: Sandusky Kayvon is the guy there
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: kk
Larkum Woodget: yes it is very ironic LOL
Sky Hye: Very photogenic
Gracie Kendal: back
Larkum Woodget: all the new stuff looks so convincingly old
Jeanni Nishi: let's hear it for textures! :)
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ok, ready for the next one folks? Last comments?
Filthy Fluno: yes
Filthy Fluno: next
Larkum Woodget: yeah! XD
Sky Hye: Yes, next please
Scarp Godenot: Another good rusty sim is THe Cannery if you haven't checked it out.
Larkum Woodget: textures are everything
Isolde Flamand: Ok this next one was taken at a Monastery
Isolde Flamand: its a big place, I was doing photos for anSL architecture mag for a friend
Sojourner Timeless: hey i have a question about the wastelands. i searched it and it says you must be a week old to visit. what's that about?
Isolde Flamand: its a RP sim
Sojourner Timeless: sorry if that's off subject
Isolde Flamand: its ok
Cosmica Mornington: nah -- you can stil get in
Larkum Woodget: they dont' want bimbling noobs getting in the way
Cosmica Mornington: have to go throught the bubnker or something
Cosmica Mornington: *bunker
Jeanni Nishi: I'm so happy to be in SL and can cam in to see this :)
Sojourner Timeless: oh, got it. thanks
Sky Hye: I have some comments about the arrangement of the elements in this one.
Tyrol Rimbaud: it does look to be a beatiful creation
Jeanni Nishi: very nice moodiness on this, Isolde
Isolde Flamand: lets see, so i was wandering around taking shots of rooflines and things for the magazine
Isolde Flamand: and came up on this
Isolde Flamand: was before Halloween
Jeanni Nishi: did you tweak it much?
Larkum Woodget: that could be a shot from RL except for the exact same tree side by side
Sky Hye: You can't control other people's arrangements, but you can get into positions where you can downplay a bit...
Scarp Godenot: Besides B/W what other post shooting things did you do to it?
Sojourner Timeless: it looks like the crosses are going to march thru the arch
Sky Hye: The things are regularly spaced.
Isolde Flamand: softglow
Isolde Flamand: and a blur
Sky Hye: Regular spacing is not as interesting as all different.
Isolde Flamand: I noticed that its almost all in twos
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Yeah, if it wasn't for those damn trees this would be RL photo
Isolde Flamand: usually things are in groups of three or five
Larkum Woodget: ah yes
Isolde Flamand: but things here are in even mumbers
Isolde Flamand: spiky trees
Isolde Flamand: the points on the building
Sojourner Timeless: matching trees
Sky Hye: Go from the column to the right, to the tree, then the next tree, thewn the crosses, then the next row of crosses. All spaced the same apart.
Isolde Flamand: yes, even my daughter noticed the symmetrical trees
Sky Hye: matching, matching, matching.
Filthy Fluno: the tree clones remind me of Israel
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: wha???
Filthy Fluno: the date palm trees are clones
Isolde Flamand: but think of this
Larkum Woodget: when planting trees in SL it's a good idea to resize each one slightly and rotate a bit too about Z
Isolde Flamand: its a monastery--they try to gain calm and peace
Sojourner Timeless: israeli date palm clones?
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Isolde Flamand: it seems serene to me
Scarp Godenot: Who has a date with their palm? heh
Jeanni Nishi: perhaps they thought it would be calming not to turn the trees...
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: very
cinnamon Daniels: thanks all for the company
Sky Hye: What is done is sl is one thing, what we compose ourselves has consequences.
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: bye Cinn!
Larkum Woodget: cu Cinn
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: consequences?
Sojourner Timeless: bye cinnamon
Isolde Flamand: how could I have set this up better?
Filthy Fluno: seeya cinn
Filthy Fluno: tanks for your comments tonight
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Hard to say
Sky Hye: Another angle of view. Take advantage of perspective, for example.
Filthy Fluno: isolde
Scarp Godenot: Knock out the tree on the right and come down a bit is my advice.
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: the building an the crosses are perfect
Filthy Fluno: i'd like a little repessoire
Tyrol Rimbaud: perhaps superimposing an image into the background
Filthy Fluno: i think its called
Filthy Fluno: something in the absolute immediate forground
Isolde Flamand: what's repessoire?
Sojourner Timeless: maybe if you got behind the crosses so one overlapped the base of the arch
Filthy Fluno: like.. up on your face
Filthy Fluno: the tree to the right almost does it
Tyrol Rimbaud: focus attention on the mauseleum by using elements to draw the eye there
Isolde Flamand: why did you choose this pic anyway, Wake?
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: That's right folks,
Filthy Fluno: lol
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I picked these three, only way I could get Isolde here
Scarp Godenot: I do like the mood of it.
Filthy Fluno: i love the mood
Jeanni Nishi: wake chose them? lol
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: It looked so real to me, so mysterious
Isolde Flamand: what mood do you get from it?
Tyrol Rimbaud: yes, this is making a statement
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yeah, she wouldn't choose
Sky Hye: I understand the intention of the mood. I get that.
Scarp Godenot: spooky and mysterious
Sky Hye: Yes
Filthy Fluno: i get introspective
Sky Hye: But it is not helped by regular spacing
Isolde Flamand: that's interesting--it seems calm to me
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yeah, time slows down in this one.
Sojourner Timeless: i think the arched structure is too fully inside the frame
Tyrol Rimbaud: haunting,.... aged and forlorn
Jeanni Nishi: is spooky good for a place that wants calmness?
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: no, it isnt' hepled at all by that!
Filthy Fluno: well...
Filthy Fluno: one man's spooky is another man's calmness
Isolde Flamand: :-D
Filthy Fluno: like garbage
Filthy Fluno: and ummm
Filthy Fluno: treasure?
Jeanni Nishi: :)
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: spooky is in the eye of the beholder. A monk probably doesn't fear death.
Sojourner Timeless: haha
Filthy Fluno: i'm also thinking compositionally
Tyrol Rimbaud: I do like the crucifix at an angle
Filthy Fluno: that the moseleum should go aall the way to the top
Tyrol Rimbaud: I assume the builder did that
Jeanni Nishi: well , to some extent, the person who made the area composed it...
Filthy Fluno: would break up the space a little more
Scarp Godenot: The mottled light on the crosses is a great thing as well.
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: that angel makes it old, I like that.
Jeanni Nishi: and you were kind of stuck with what he/she made...
Sojourner Timeless: yeah that's why it makes me think the others are following, the bit of tilt
Jeanni Nishi: for better or worse...
Filthy Fluno: and it would bring the eye over there more
Tyrol Rimbaud: the background is alittle lost for me
Isolde Flamand: if it were up to me I would put the crosses in the center, and the trees on the right
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: the brightness there emphasizen the darkness up front
Isolde Flamand: but that's the way it was already laid out
Jeanni Nishi: it's one of the artistic marriages made in SL--- photos of areas designed, using objects made by yet others.
Tyrol Rimbaud: you know, perhaps a sepia color would give more emphasis to the sullenness of the piece
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yeah, you gotta work with what you got
Isolde Flamand: i did some later church pics with sepia
Isolde Flamand: and then erased tothe stained glass color underneath
Tyrol Rimbaud: yes, interesting
Jeanni Nishi: that probably lloks great, Isolde :)
Scarp Godenot: The mood needs to be cold not warm Tyrol, in my opinion...
Jeanni Nishi: I love using sepiea as a layer...
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: We have one more, any final comments on this one folks?
Isolde Flamand: i like the other church one better than this one, truth be told
Larkum Woodget: I like the way the cliff is so abrupt- you cant walk further- like an echo of crosses- it's a good vanitas image
Tyrol Rimbaud: perhaps some sepia, and the slightest touch of green to the trees would make it acutally look like an aged photograph
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: but I picked this one, so there! :- )
Sojourner Timeless: what about a bluish tint instead of sepia?
Tyrol Rimbaud smiles
Morris Vig: So sayeth Wake
Isolde Flamand: I'll look into that--black and white but with color
Isolde Flamand: lol
Filthy Fluno: guys.. i gotta split
Jeanni Nishi: or we could all go there, take photos and compare what we do with them :)
Scarp Godenot: I like the pure B/W
Sky Hye: Bye, Filthy
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: take care Filth and thank for tonight
Larkum Woodget: cu Filthy
Isolde Flamand: buy Filthy
Sojourner Timeless: bye, thanks
Cosmica Mornington: Gotta go friends -- this was great!
Morris Vig: ciao Filthy
Gracie Kendal: Night Filthy
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Bye Cosmica!
Gracie Kendal: I have to run too :))
Filthy Fluno: thanks so much
Jeanni Nishi: so long, Filthy! Thanks for showing what yuou are working on---
Gracie Kendal: have a great night everyone :))
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ok, let me rez the third one.
Isolde Flamand: are you going to show the last one?
Sky Hye: Bye Gracie
Filthy Fluno: thank you
Jazz Calhern: Night everyone...thanks for let me sit in
Filthy Fluno: sorry have to run
Sky Hye: Oh, no more photo -- Oh a new one!
Sojourner Timeless: c u another time
Filthy Fluno: smell y'all later!
Isolde Flamand: this shot is taken at the Harbour Bridge in the Aussie sim ponderosa
Scarp Godenot: smell ya Filthy!
Sojourner Timeless: ==]
Isolde Flamand: at night, wtih the regular viewer
Filthy Fluno: good work isolde!
Sky Hye: This is a strong one.
Filthy Fluno: keep it UP!
Isolde Flamand: ty!
Isolde Flamand accepted your inventory offer.
Jeanni Nishi: :)
Isolde Flamand: lets see, what did I do to this one?
Isolde Flamand: lightened the lights, darkened the darks
Scarp Godenot: Got the Fluorescent light color going.
Isolde Flamand: it was already this color
Isolde Flamand: I added a bit of highlighting
Isolde Flamand accepted your inventory offer.
Jeanni Nishi: layered and added?
Morris Vig: brb
Isolde Flamand: i dont' think I knew how to do the layers when I did this one
Isolde Flamand: I'm just learning GIMP
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: oh, layers rock!
Isolde Flamand: I'm figuring them out
Scarp Godenot: The tangent on the foot needs the leg to go one way or another I would recommend.
Jeanni Nishi: it becomes quite fascinating to set different layers to different modes and transparencies
Isolde Flamand: but at first, I just did everything to the bottomlater
Jeanni Nishi: I don't put anything on the bottom layer any more...
Tyrol Rimbaud: there is something almost marcel Duchamp about it
Tyrol Rimbaud: the mechanical man
Jeanni Nishi: the bottom layer cannot got transparent
Sojourner Timeless: in a good way, it looks like a professional ad for something
Sky Hye: Why did you choose to keep that tangent?
Isolde Flamand: :-)
Larkum Woodget: yes- surreal- what is this Jeans model doing there on the bridge anyway?
Isolde Flamand: what tangent?
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'm not seeing your tanget...
Sky Hye: At the foot and edge of the photo
Scarp Godenot: Tangents are always distracting in my opinion...
Sojourner Timeless: yeah like there's a story we want to know...
Morris Vig: back
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: oh, I see it, yes, the left shoe
Larkum Woodget: LO
Isolde Flamand: um, I don't know what you mean...I don't know the lingo of the professional artist
Scarp Godenot: Where the left foot hits the edge of the frame
Jeanni Nishi: well, I enjoy seeing a man's butt on occasion :)
Larkum Woodget: LOL
Isolde Flamand: I think that was just where the photo ended
Isolde Flamand: oh
Larkum Woodget: apart from being decorative
Sky Hye: A little photoshop would be in order.
Sky Hye: Either add, or crop
Larkum Woodget: a little photoshop is always in order XD
Scarp Godenot: Probably needs to be done when shooting...
Sky Hye: :)
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Yeah, you might be able to clone in another few pixels
Sojourner Timeless: this may sound weird, but i sort of wish this could be combined with the arch and crosses
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: no, I think she gets lucky here
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: now that's an interesting combo!
Jeanni Nishi: the angle of the man's left leg echoes the bridge on the right
Tyrol Rimbaud: I love the rythym of this structure....
Sojourner Timeless: this has so much depth
Scarp Godenot: Shoot the next one through the legs looking up at the structure!
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: oh no, we just lost her!
Tyrol Rimbaud: was this the only angle that could work for you?
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: She's been crashing a lot recently.
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: too bad filthy can't sing to entertain us!
Morris Vig: Yeah - Keep going with the critique - we can share the transcript with her
Tyrol Rimbaud: oh dear..... ... there she is
Scarp Godenot: SL.... crashing..... OMG! It's not possible..... is it? heh heh
Larkum Woodget: sometimes I think it's such a blessing that I can't stream audio
Jeanni Nishi: wb Isolde
Morris Vig: ....and she's back!
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: tom, can you ask again?
Isolde Flamand: ugh! So sorry
Sojourner Timeless: and the (guy's butt) sort of stops you from looking down the left side, while you look way down the right side
Jeanni Nishi: :)
Larkum Woodget: it's hard to see anythign but the butt
Jeanni Nishi: well, I think this works fine...
Larkum Woodget: butts are like that
Scarp Godenot: It's Ok Isolde, we trashed you while you were gone..... heh
Sky Hye: Haha, Larkum
Larkum Woodget: XD
Tyrol Rimbaud: seeing the back of the man does make him impersonal
Isolde Flamand laughs
Tyrol Rimbaud: almost the everman
Sojourner Timeless: yeah, i don't mind it being there, then i want to look down the other side...
Isolde Flamand: I like this photo because of the repetition and the spading
Scarp Godenot: SL man butts are so un life like IMO.
Sojourner Timeless: down the bride
Isolde Flamand: spacing
Tyrol Rimbaud: "just a man on a bridge" type of thing
Isolde Flamand: and I like the man's rear end
Jeanni Nishi: perhaps an overlay of this shot blown up and semi-transparent ... but, then, I tend to overdo :)
Isolde Flamand: :-)
Sojourner Timeless: bridge not bride ==]
Tyrol Rimbaud: lol... I see
Larkum Woodget: hm
Isolde Flamand: if you look at the spacing
Isolde Flamand: from the left
Isolde Flamand: the black space is the same width as the man
Isolde Flamand: and then they are progressively smaller
Isolde Flamand: toward the horizon
Jeanni Nishi: perspective :)
Isolde Flamand: he's standing evenly with the beam
Jeanni Nishi: it works even in SL :)
Larkum Woodget: perhaps RL males have a tendency to create feminine looking SL manbutss
Sojourner Timeless: if you cut out the ball on the far left, it might have more punch
Scarp Godenot: Cloning in about a ten pixed wide strip on the left side would improve every thing I think.
Scarp Godenot: Pixel
Larkum Woodget: for some reason
Tyrol Rimbaud: was this the only angle that could work for you Isolde? I can see the use of many angles from a rythymic structure like this
Isolde Flamand: i did several
Jeanni Nishi: you think? I would probably crop...
Tyrol Rimbaud: yes
Sky Hye: You mean guys in sl make their male butts feminine with sliders, Larkum?
Scarp Godenot: I do like the tension of the left side and the horizon line is exactly nice.
Sky Hye: Sorry for the change of subject.
Larkum Woodget: yes that's what I mean
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ha!
Sky Hye: hmm
Larkum Woodget: they're more used to thinking about the gluteals of the opposite sex
Sky Hye: Gotta think about that.
Jeanni Nishi: you mean RL guys don't have big butts???
Sojourner Timeless: y'know that slider butt adjuster doesn't give the greates choices
Isolde Flamand takes notes "More pics of men's glutes"
Sky Hye: I'll be inspecting more butts now, if I could only know if I'm looking at a man designed butt.
Scarp Godenot: I mean SL guys have NO butts!
Morris Vig: RL guys who sit at desks for hours on end have big butts....but that's another story.
Jeanni Nishi: ha!
Larkum Woodget: it's just a hunch
Sojourner Timeless: I think RL guys mostly have no butt
Larkum Woodget: I have a but!!
Sky Hye: An interesting theory
Isolde Flamand: so my lovely bridge photo is now the man's butt on a bridge photo....
Jeanni Nishi: sorry, Isolde--- we got distracted by the butt...
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ok folks, have we said enough on the photo?
Jeanni Nishi: for no good reason :)
Larkum Woodget: LOL Isolde
Scarp Godenot: The butt end of jokes! ha ha
Sojourner Timeless: i'm laughing in RL over this
Sky Hye: Sorry!
Isolde Flamand: LOL
Tyrol Rimbaud: lol,.. no no Isolde... I had no thought of that
Isolde Flamand: Tyrol, I missed something---you had no thought of what?
Tyrol Rimbaud: of the man's backside
Isolde Flamand: oh
Sojourner Timeless: it's a jeans ad waiting to happen
Tyrol Rimbaud: or at least that is not what I was focusing on
Isolde Flamand: just tell me one thing, when yuou see this pic, first you look at the man, and then you look at.....?
Scarp Godenot: It's an ad for suicide counseling! ha ha
Larkum Woodget: except the less than stunning butt
Isolde Flamand: i think the butt is stunning
Isolde Flamand: but I am biased
Sojourner Timeless: it's cuz we read from left to right
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I never look at the right hand side
Isolde Flamand: :-D
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I see the butt, then follow the left to infinity
Tyrol Rimbaud: well, isolde, did you mean for it be studied like this...... do you think of this as art or decoration?
Isolde Flamand: you don't look down the bridge?
Scarp Godenot: But the right side creates a tension with the right side and that is a good thing IMO.
Scarp Godenot: Left side
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: no, down the uprights on the left
Jeanni Nishi: I look down the brodge and then up the leg...
Morris Vig: Cool SL build to me, but that's me channelling my inner SL builder
Jeanni Nishi: to the butt
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: my eye avods the dark
Sojourner Timeless: we just tend to look at the left side first as a culture
Isolde Flamand: and see, when I look at it, I look down the road to see what he's waiting for
Tyrol Rimbaud: ahhhh
Isolde Flamand: the man is waiting for something
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: i didn't see that at all!
Isolde Flamand: so what is he looking for?
Isolde Flamand: that's what I look for
Scarp Godenot: Godot?
Tyrol Rimbaud: you know...... perhaps two tiny little headlights in the distance could enhance this story
Jeanni Nishi: I thought that... like he was waiting for a bus or something...
Sojourner Timeless: i think to see him waiting he should look down the bridge a little to the right
Isolde Flamand: to me, the person in the shot is incidental tho the bridge
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: oh no, he's the focus!
Isolde Flamand: don't you look down when yuou wait for somthing a long time?
Sojourner Timeless: he's super symmetrical
Sky Hye: He's not incidental to my eye.
Jeanni Nishi: standing bored on the bridge... like I have done on a subway platform... looking down the road to see if it is coming, then, just now, looking down
Scarp Godenot: Isolde the figure gives both scale and ambiguity. Both good.
Sky Hye: Personal, yet ambiguous
Isolde Flamand: its fascinating that everyone sees something different
Sojourner Timeless: that's a good point
Jeanni Nishi: yes--- and not just the man's butt :)
Isolde Flamand: its almost all geometrical, except for the person
Sojourner Timeless: right, and the color of his pants cause him to sort of blend in
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: he blends and stands out at the same time
Sojourner Timeless: true
Morris Vig: I do like the near straight-line of the lights
Scarp Godenot: Right down the center
Morris Vig: to infinity
Isolde Flamand: i read somewhere you are never supposed to do that
Morris Vig: which is why I am no artist...
Isolde Flamand: but since I have no formal training, I thought, "What the heck>"
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: welcome to Art Talk Tyrol, we're justwinding up.
Larkum Woodget: Is anyone familiar with Camile Paglias Appolinian/Cthonian dichotomy?
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: sadly...
Scarp Godenot: Isolde whoever told you that is not an artist . There are no rules.
Tyrol Rimbaud: lol... thank you
Tyrol Rimbaud: hmmmmmmmm..........
Jeanni Nishi: yes--- it is effective here, Isolde
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: no, I'm not at all Larkum
Sojourner Timeless: yeah,, it's creativity to do your way
Tyrol Rimbaud: that would be abother discussion
Larkum Woodget: oh well
Tyrol Rimbaud: another even
Isolde Flamand: :-)
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Yes, I like that!
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'll write it down.
Scarp Godenot: Design rules = ZZzzzzzzzzz........
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: folks, we are really over time now, so any last questions or comments?
Sky Hye: I'm done. :)
Sojourner Timeless: really formal training can sometimes kill your creative spirit so don't worry about training
Isolde Flamand: the other pieces in this bridge set are at Second ARts
Jeanni Nishi: one learns the rules--- then one can break them :)
Larkum Woodget: It's a big riff in her book "Sexual Personae" which I recommend highly
Tyrol Rimbaud: LOL
Sojourner Timeless: ok, thanks for having us...
Isolde Flamand: :-)
Morris Vig: yes, thx Wake
Isolde Flamand: thanks for all the good ideas everyone
Jeanni Nishi: this has been interesting, Wake
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yes, today I was told that something of mine was "Brave" and, well, I was too dumb to NOT try it. So it works out, it balances
Isolde Flamand: I have lots to think about
Sky Hye: Thank you Wake. Another great meetup!
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ok folks
Jeanni Nishi: Thank you, Isolde, for volunteering :)
Isolde Flamand: thanks for inviting me Wake
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yes, tahnks!
Isolde Flamand: :-)
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Thank Iso!!!!
Sojourner Timeless: yeah it takes courage to be critiqued
Tyrol Rimbaud: thank you Wake.... this has been very nice..... your efforts are well appreciated !
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: BTW, i'm always looking for victims for the rez and critique session, step right up, ok?
Tyrol Rimbaud: thank you Isolde !
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: next week we have our own Gracie Kendal!
Isolde Flamand: thanks everyone for being so nice!
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Jan 21 – SL: A New Global Art Community. Gracie Kendal guest speaker. This study examines the global online art community of Second Life and discusses the diverse artists and artwork as a motivating force in today's postmodern art world. This art community shares many similar traits with 1920s bohemian Paris, where artists converged on a collaborative art scene.
Sojourner Timeless: thank you, everyone, it's been fun and educational
Sky Hye: Nice work, Isolde :)))
Sojourner Timeless: very nice
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Yes, well done Iso
Isolde Flamand: :-)
Jeanni Nishi: That will be interesting...
Scarp Godenot: If this is bohemian paris, shouldn't we all be drunk now? heh
Jeanni Nishi: Thanks again fo rthis week :)
Isolde Flamand accepted your inventory offer.
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I was certainly drunk at the rezzable one!
Sky Hye: We are V-drunk. :)
Isolde Flamand: :-)
Tyrol Rimbaud: it was very thoughtfully created, Isolde !
Isolde Flamand: thanks again Wake
Isolde Flamand: thank you Tyrol
Larkum Woodget: cool image
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: You're welcome.
Isolde Flamand: I just try to have fun
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ok folks, until next week.
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: be well!
Sojourner Timeless: really, be encouraged
Isolde Flamand: and when i think it looks "good" i keep it
Larkum Woodget: cu everybody
Sky Hye: I'm taking off now, too.
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: oh yes, if you want to hang and chat, that is fine also. But i'm a pumpkin, gotta go
Sky Hye: Bye all.
Sojourner Timeless: goodbye everyone, take care
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: bye!
Isolde Flamand: its was nice to meet you all
Tyrol Rimbaud: goodnight everyone !
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: oh wait!
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I forgot
Sojourner Timeless: nice to meet you too ==]
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Visit Isolde's place at Second Arts!!!!!!
PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Lots of SL photography tehre, she can LM you.