Art Talk - A Solution to the Entropy

Guests: ggg Salomon

Host: PleaseWakeMeUp Idler

January 28, 2008


Filthy Fluno: hi GGG

Pi Pooraka: hi ggg

ggg Salomon: Please call me Gina :)

Cainin Griffith: Em, you have a LM?

Emilie Cryotank: Hi Gina

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: This is out guest tonight, everyone say hi

Cainin Griffith: Hi Gina!

Filthy Fluno: hi Gina

Emilie Cryotank: I do, i shall toss it to everyone ;)

ggg Salomon: Where shall I set up my board hehe

Cainin Griffith: k

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: can you put on on the poster than says Frenchy?

Emilie Cryotank gave you Tlacuilo, Artropolis (192, 210, 76).

ggg Salomon: yes ok that is fine :)

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: hello again cosmica,

Cosmica Mornington: hi Wake!

quadrapop Lane: ty emile

Filthy Fluno: wake

Sky Hye: Hi all!

Filthy Fluno: can i make a really quick announcement?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: hi sky, welcome

Pi Pooraka: hi cosmixa

Sky Hye: thanks

Filthy Fluno: hi sky

Cosmica Mornington: Hi everybody!

Pi Pooraka: hi sky

quadrapop Lane: hi sky

Sky Hye: Hi Filthy

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PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: sure, go ahead while Gina is setting up.

Filthy Fluno: :)

Sky Hye: And all

Emilie Cryotank: I wouldn't say i'm quite done, but it'll probably always be a work in prigress

Filthy Fluno: k

ggg Salomon: Thank you for that LM :)

ggg Salomon: I sorry..

ggg Salomon: Oopps I'm Sorry! Cosmica hehe

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Let me know when your ready Gina, I'll introduce you

Emilie Cryotank: progress even , you're welcome

Cosmica Mornington: heh!

Filthy Fluno: ok hi everyone.. .my announcement concerns the way we do the talk here

Filthy Fluno: usually its kinda free for all

quadrapop Lane: title green I'm bandwidth shaped today....

Filthy Fluno: But I would really just like to remind everyone that we now record the chat history for our website... artropolitans.com

ggg Salomon: Ok now sure if you all can see the borad?

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quadrapop Lane: yay!

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yes, I can.

Cosmica Mornington: nice graphics!wow!

Filthy Fluno: so please do not all comment at once

Filthy Fluno: or try not to

Cosmica Mornington: Hey Filthy!

ggg Salomon: hehe yes thought I create some slides to get a picture

Sky Hye: Should we wait to be called on?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Ok ok

Filthy Fluno: that is all... muah! take it awaaaaay ggg!

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: everyone

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Can I have your attention please??????????

Cosmica Mornington: What's up with the stealth instructions!

Filthy Fluno: no

Filthy Fluno: i don't think we need to wait to be called on

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Filthy Fluno: let's see how it goes

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Before I introduce our guest, I'd like to announce that on the 10th we're having a big party here

Filthy Fluno: ok

Filthy Fluno: i shut up now

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Artropolis's 1 year birthday.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Woo hoo!

Cosmica Mornington: yay!

ggg Salomon: great :)

quadrapop Lane: happy birthday artropolis

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: We also have a full schedule of Art Talks coming up, check the board outside or see the schedule on ArtWorld Market's web site

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Filthy Fluno: or artropolitans.com

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Next week is Part I of the 4 part What Is Art series

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: No, tonight, we have a special gues, ggg Salomon of the SmartEarth sim project

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: She's giving a very brief presentation then she'll field questions.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Hopefully, we'll have time for a field trip afterwards.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Oh, and call her Gina please.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Welcome Gina!

Cosmica Mornington: hi Gina!

ggg Salomon: Thank you very much Please

ggg Salomon: Its my pleasure to be here and welcome you all

ggg Salomon: Please let me make some remark before I start

Filthy Fluno: i'm not seeing the top of the poster

ggg Salomon: Better like this?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yup

Filthy Fluno: yes

Filthy Fluno: thanks

Cosmica Mornington: yes!

ggg Salomon: You are welcome the board is a bit big lol

ggg Salomon: Ok about the remarks

ggg Salomon: 1) I suggest if you have questions could you please put them down in a notecard or so due to the effect of efficiency

ggg Salomon: 2) if you think it is too slow or too fast we could come up with the following little interrupting hints as for tf=too fast or ts= too slow I sleep in next :)

ggg Salomon: Any comments?

ggg Salomon: Hello Manx please have a seat

Manx Wharton: well hey.

ggg Salomon: Ok if you all can see the picture I will start

Yoa Ogee: hi all

ggg Salomon: Hi Yoa

Filthy Fluno: fire away

Filthy Fluno: Hi Yoa!

Manx Wharton: cool, yoa

ggg Salomon: ok 3:39 :)

ggg Salomon: Good morning my name is doranice, ehmm, no I mean Gina hehe

Yoa Ogee: :)

ggg Salomon: second

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Manx Wharton: oh god, I'm sitting on you!

ggg Salomon: Hello and welcome to our presentation of the Smarter Earth Institute (SE) and...

Manx Wharton: whoops!

ggg Salomon: in particular *****ArtMuse*****

ggg Salomon: *****My name is Gina*****

ggg Salomon: And I would like to introduce you to the Smarter Earth Institute (SE) and ArtMuse later on.

ggg Salomon: Though, what is the Smarter Earth Institute?

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: (SE) is a 1st life Non-Profit Organization that yields environment protection.

ggg Salomon: SE is based in Iowa, USA and the website is .

ggg Salomon: SE is also the umbrella organization with a physcial and a virtual world part.

ggg Salomon: (See arrows to the left respectively to the right)

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: is the Management Organization of SE (see in the middle). Teamcat connects....

ggg Salomon: the physical world, the virtual world, the Smarter Earth and the Metaverse.

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: Looking on the left side, the Physical World...

ggg Salomon: is the operational arm and the website is .

ggg Salomon: provides real life environment solutions based on...

ggg Salomon: extensive, qualitative and quantitative research conducted by Smarther Earth & the Metaverse.

ggg Salomon: Further, Reticulus cooperates and exchanges knowlege with other organizations.

ggg Salomon: MDI in cooperation with EADS provides environment solutions for mobility.

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: Looking on the right side, the Virtual World...

ggg Salomon: There is the (MEfT).

ggg Salomon: MEfT is a non-profit organization (in-world SL) that provides a link between Technology and Art.

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: MEfT has several functions. MEfT serves as knowledge base for technologies,

Cosmica Mornington: wow

ggg Salomon: offers a platform for expert talks in technology and

ggg Salomon: welcomes art, museum and cultural event interested people.

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: So, now lets talk about ArtMuse. First of all what is ArtMuse about?

Filthy Fluno: hooooray!

Cosmica Mornington: help!

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Filthy Fluno: cosmica said help

Filthy Fluno: everyhting ok?

ggg Salomon: ArtMuse is the Cultural Arm of MEfT. ArtMuse provides a so-called "Ungroup" based on...

ggg Salomon: :)

ggg Salomon: SL is magic :)

Cosmica Mornington: I'm fine -- please continue!

ggg Salomon: the SL Metaverse platform .

Cainin Griffith reaches out to help

Filthy Fluno: what's an ungroup?

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: Hmmm, what is an "Ungroup" you might want to ask now?

Filthy Fluno: lol

ggg Salomon: Well, an “unGroup” allows you to get the kinds of notices you get by being a member of a group...

ggg Salomon: BUT, without having to use a SL group slot.

ggg Salomon: *One major benefit is that it will keep you in touch with your group...

ggg Salomon: WITHOUT having to sacrifice a precious group as...

ggg Salomon: the limit of groups is NOT only 25!!! group slots each avatar can have in SL,

ggg Salomon: BUT, to overcome this limitation in SL groups.

ggg Salomon: The number of groups might be infinite.

ggg Salomon: So, 1) We overcome the limtation of groups given by SL.

ggg Salomon: Well, infinite groups might mean a "flood of information"?

ggg Salomon: ==>> Cleary no! And why not? Well, because....

ggg Salomon: * Another major benefit is...

ggg Salomon: to get less information or just the information YOU are looking for and want to "pick up".

ggg Salomon: Conventional SL groups send information (push-system).

ggg Salomon: Ungroups are based on the SL Metaverse platform. Therefore,...

ggg Salomon: you get information only on YOUR demand.

ggg Salomon: So, 2) this means you have a "pull-system" here & not a conventional SL "push-system" group.

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: But why should I join the ArtMuse group now?

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ggg Salomon: Well, ArtMuse is a platform for art, museum and cultural event lovers and interested people and...

ggg Salomon: due to the advantages of the "ungroups" we welcome you to

ggg Salomon: join, participate and even contribute in form of critics, other issues or even own events

ggg Salomon: being seen by an increasing number of participants and sites.

ggg Salomon: You may also want to put your art or cultural event on the ArtMuse group platform.

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: Additionally, we welcome you to take one of our latest editon of our ArtMuse kiosks

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ggg Salomon: at the end of the presentation and to join our network which can be found

ggg Salomon: under the following network-weblink

ggg Salomon: continously expanding in locations.

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: Last, but not least, ArtMuse has an announcement list for art, museum, and cultural related events.

ggg Salomon: This is run in-world by Hermit Barber, better known in-world as "Emilie".

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: Hermit is connected in a critical manner to multiple worlds in SL, including...

ggg Salomon: fashion, eco-awareness, and the SkidzRow, an off-topic group

ggg Salomon: where she demonstrates again and again her incredible knowledge of the ways of Second Life.

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: Finally, ArtMuse is the "twin" of another SE sponsored group called the

ggg Salomon: , which is for Environmental related issues & is run by Meshed Gears

ggg Salomon: (Hermit’s close associate).

ggg Salomon: The link of is and...

ggg Salomon: soon will increase in sites too.

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: Closing this presentation let me briefly tell you how the ArtMuse kiosks work.

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: The way "unGroups" work is that a person wishing to join an "unGroup" ...

ggg Salomon: simply touches an appropriate kiosk in-world (a second touch allow’s unsubscribing)

ggg Salomon: at any location and chooses "subscribe" (or "unsubscribe") at any time.

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: And nice to know...

ggg Salomon: *There are NO charges for the "unGroup" for gallery owners, museum curators,

ggg Salomon: other cultural event organizers or for users. Further, ...

ggg Salomon: *If at any time you should wish to establish your own unGroup,

ggg Salomon: then we do have an affiliate program where after a two week free trial,

ggg Salomon: your first payment will result in a small contribution to the SmarterEarth Inst.

ggg Salomon: If you are a non-profit, you can obtain your own unGroup free of charge

ggg Salomon: by setting up the trial system as you would like....

ggg Salomon: And then contact in-world.

ggg Salomon: If you hear about the unGroup system through one of these lists,

Filthy Fluno: what about being an artist

Filthy Fluno: ?

ggg Salomon: please consider getting your trial through us...

ggg Salomon: as it will support the activities of the SmarterEarth Institute without incurring any cost to you.

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: At the end of the presentation...

ggg Salomon: Now, I would like to welcome you for our Grand Opening

ggg Salomon: of the Museum of Earth friendly Technologies (MEfT) in-world SL at Jeffrey (192,192,31)

ggg Salomon: on Thursday, 14th February 2008.

ggg Salomon: *****

ggg Salomon: Thank you very much for your attention and now I suggest we shall open a Q & A session?

ggg Salomon:

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Thank you Gina

ggg Salomon: Thats it

Filthy Fluno: thanks ggg

Manx Wharton: Good walk ggg

Emilie Cryotank: thanks Gina

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I think Filthy had the first one, what about Artists?

Cainin Griffith: Thanks 'Gina

ggg Salomon: 3:50 11 min with funny Sl hick up I had :)

ggg Salomon: You are very welcome

Filthy Fluno: ok.. i have a few questions if i may

ggg Salomon: Yes well it is open to any comment as we do not want to limit

ggg Salomon: It might be as critical as you like or as colorful as you like as life is

ggg Salomon: SE in the end is about how to find a solution in the entropy

Yoa Ogee gave you Yeti Bing & Yoa Ogee (Avatars, Playground and more).

ggg Salomon: The answer is not easy to a complext question but SE will offer affordable solutions and it shall be a place of free speech, thought and art as well cultural events

Filthy Fluno: i'm sorry... i'm really lost ggg... i'm lost

ggg Salomon: Such as we participate in Life Earth concerts to and more just to mention one

Filthy Fluno: let's back this up a bit

Filthy Fluno: we can join groups without being in gruop?

ggg Salomon: Ok I can give you a notecard too fo the full presentation

Filthy Fluno: well.. this is art talk

ggg Salomon: I know it is a lot of data in 11 min :)

Filthy Fluno: and we like it live

Filthy Fluno: and slithering and fresh

ggg Salomon: Normally it would take 1 hour

ggg Salomon: Yes, but not only

Manx Wharton: actually, that's a great question. can we archive this transcript for reference?

Cainin Griffith: i'm listening

Filthy Fluno: yes manx

Manx Wharton: tx

Filthy Fluno: it will be archived and posted on artropolitans.com

ggg Salomon: Well, first of all when I came here I had exactly some group messages hehe

Manx Wharton: rock on.

quadrapop Lane: and anyone who logs their chat will have a copy too....

ggg Salomon: This is not the case with ungrous

Filthy Fluno: ok

Filthy Fluno: so why does an artist like Cainin Griffith need Artmuse

ggg Salomon: Yes I can provide all of you a notecard so you have the links too

ggg Salomon: Well that is an individual opinion :)

Filthy Fluno: ok

Filthy Fluno: anyone else got questions?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: It has to be more than just ungroups, how does this relate to Art?

ggg Salomon: But I would say it enlarges your possiblities

ggg Salomon: As with 25 groups you might need another avatar

Sky Hye: Is there a fee for regular artists who are not gallery owners, etc?

Manx Wharton: so let's see.

quadrapop Lane: whay does artmuseactually do?

Manx Wharton: it allows a broader social network than teh existing sl group struc.

Cosmica Mornington: huh

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: good question Q!

ggg Salomon: Yes if it goes under non-profit it shall be free if you want to have your own site

Cainin Griffith: Well.. at the moment i have SL groups.. Blogs.. and Events.. if i am Ungrouped....what is the benefit for me and my fellow artists

ggg Salomon: But you also can do it over Hermit Barber, better knows as Emilie in-world and she can post it for you over ArtMuse without any cost at all

Cainin Griffith: So its a promotion for us and for SE?

ggg Salomon: For instance we have posted some of Gracie Kendals exhibitions

Sky Hye: You have to go through someone to post?

ggg Salomon: Yes, promotion, platform and what ever you like

ggg Salomon: And best of all is you wont be "spammed"

ggg Salomon: The system is new as you dont have push technology

Filthy Fluno: push technolgy?

Filthy Fluno: what's that?

Cosmica Mornington: hmmm

ggg Salomon: Some of my groups I am in have quite frequently events or messages

quadrapop Lane: as a gallery owner I want to reach as many people as possible - how would it expand my existing nwetwork?

Cainin Griffith: Can we have a demonstration?... i mean.. the text went by too damn fast for me to actually see the benefit

ggg Salomon: Here with ArtMuse you pick up your information which is a pull system

quadrapop Lane: ie how many people does art muse reach?

Cainin Griffith: no offense meant

Manx Wharton: a demo example would do wonders here.

Cainin Griffith: right QP

ggg Salomon: Yes, sure I can give you the link and you see our current sites of Kiosks

Filthy Fluno: cool

Filthy Fluno: thanks!

quadrapop Lane: and how many are already using the existoing art groups in sl?

Manx Wharton: great tx.

ggg Salomon: Second please I will seek the the link and copy and paste it :)

ggg Salomon: You are welcome

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Cainin, you can review it in your Chat History

Pi Pooraka: and how does this information get out to everyone...given IMs are capped at a certain number?

quadrapop Lane: yes...

ggg Salomon: http://www.subscribeomatic.com/groups/view/153

ggg Salomon: Well the information gets out on the platform

quadrapop Lane: how?

Pi Pooraka: what is the platform?

quadrapop Lane: do we have to access a particular website or prim?

quadrapop Lane: to pull he info?

ggg Salomon: And it will be like a box system where all people all over in SL can find kiosks and find all events on the ArtMuse SL Metaverse

quadrapop Lane: what form does the info arrive in?

ggg Salomon: The platform is based on the SL Metaverse

quadrapop Lane: ah so similar to Sasun's art tours kiosks

ggg Salomon: And currently SE has sponsored two groups

Pi Pooraka: so it is not delivered? it is posted on a kiosk?

ggg Salomon: The ArtMuse and the EcoAnnounce

Cosmica Mornington: huh

ggg Salomon: No that is that new system hehe

quadrapop Lane: so we have to assess a prim - what do we then get? notecard?

quadrapop Lane: or url?

Cainin Griffith: OK so from my understanding... rally quick view at the sight.. you put Kiosks around SL and people who are interested get the events listed if they read the Kiosk?

ggg Salomon: Yes I can show you a kiosk

ggg Salomon: it is very easy

Pi Pooraka: and how oftern are the kiosks updated?

ggg Salomon: when ever ArtMuse does put a new event on the SL Metaverse

ggg Salomon: The Kiosk itself is updated contionously

quadrapop Lane: Gina, how many evens are there currently being advertised on artmuse?

quadrapop Lane: or ecoAnnounce?

Manx Wharton: heh.....4

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'l grant that there are things call Ungroups and I'll ever grant that they are wonderful, but is this art specific or can anyone use them?

ggg Salomon: So this is a ArtMuse kiosk :)

Cosmica Mornington: maybe we should go look at one....

ggg Salomon: Not that many and it depends on the artist itself

ArtMuse: Thank you for subscribing to ArtMuse - To remove yourself from this Subscribe-O-Matic list, just touch this device again at any time.

ggg Salomon: itselves*

quadrapop Lane: hmmm seems like a lot of effort to go to to reach how many people in sl?

ggg Salomon: well we are just introducing it at this stage but it might be the future way of doing it very soon

quadrapop Lane: who can access the kiosk?

quadrapop Lane: anyone?

ggg Salomon: SL Metaverse is pretty young started last summer

ggg Salomon: Everybody can access it

quadrapop Lane: and how obvious from the kiosk is it what you are accessing?

ggg Salomon: Very easy

quadrapop Lane: ok

ggg Salomon: Just click it

Filthy Fluno: i just clicked it

ggg Salomon: Then decide subscribe or not

Filthy Fluno: and i'm still ok

quadrapop Lane: so how many kiosks do you have out?

Filthy Fluno: there's about 30?

ggg Salomon: If you subscribe you have access :)

quadrapop Lane: ah so to get info you have to subscribe?

ggg Salomon: Costs 0 L$

ArtMuse: Message originally sent on Feb 2, 2008:

Please Join us at The Crescent Moon Museum on 02-04-08 at 9:00 a.m. slt for an Exhibit of various Second Life artists.

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ggg Salomon: Yes exactly

ggg Salomon: very easy

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: hey, that's actually pretty cool

ggg Salomon: then you can find it over the link

ggg Salomon: http://www.subscribeomatic.com/groups/view/153

Cainin Griffith: so it automatically sends out info to the "unsubscribers"?

ggg Salomon: Yes :)

quadrapop Lane: and what does that do? put you on a user list that then has access to the kiosk prim?

quadrapop Lane: in what format does that info go to users?

ggg Salomon: And if you dont like it you either dont have to watch the link or you put your event on it you like :))

quadrapop Lane: what link?

quadrapop Lane: a url?

Cainin Griffith: its on the site

ggg Salomon: I can give you a kiosk and you put it somewhere where your friends, customer or art lovers can see it best

Cainin Griffith: its coming together a bit now

Filthy Fluno: i'm confusified

ggg Salomon: yes this url

ggg Salomon: http://www.subscribeomatic.com/groups/view/153

Cainin Griffith: but do all subscribers get all events?

quadrapop Lane: so you have to access a website to get the info?

ggg Salomon: it will also guide you if you click the kiosk here :)

Manx Wharton: ggg--how would this compare to something like the kiosks for Galleries of Second Life?

quadrapop Lane: is that open to anyone or only to subscibers who have joined in SL?

ggg Salomon: Yes, sure they receive all events

Filthy Fluno: galleries of SL just gives list of galleries

Pi Pooraka: or kiosks for SL Exchange?

Filthy Fluno: not events per say

ggg Salomon: Yes, in some way it does

Manx Wharton: ok--tx filthy filth! :D

quadrapop Lane: Galleries of SL can be used for many things Filthy - the script allows for it

Filthy Fluno: true that quad

quadrapop Lane: 'Sasun only uses it for gallery listings

ggg Salomon: But it is different as we do allow critics as talks might araise of what is really art or what you like

Filthy Fluno: but i've never used it to find out what's happening

ggg Salomon: It will grow over time to a platform for events, talks, gatherings and more

Manx Wharton: that's because you know all the cool kids, FF

ggg Salomon: That is up to you hehe

Filthy Fluno: whatEVA manx!

Manx Wharton: evs

Manx Wharton: :D

quadrapop Lane: hmmm it's not so much a platform - that is what we are atnm, but an information portal- terminology is confusing if not used clearly

ggg Salomon: nobody will bug you and say hey Mr please read the site now :))

ggg Salomon: Yes at the moment it is not much a platform yet but it will develop over time

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: So Gina, WHY is your group doing this?

ggg Salomon: We just started in Decemeber and it has been growing quite a bit

quadrapop Lane: also meas no one might read the site - SL residents are fikle and often dont go looking for info - they want it delivered

ggg Salomon: No, it is not only our group

ggg Salomon: We will use it as well as you can use it the same way

Manx Wharton: It's a Movement, baby!

Emilie Cryotank: So if I want to post info on this, I have to be a paying subscriber yes?

ggg Salomon: It will serve as for announcing events of SE for instance such as the Grand Opening soon Feb 14th 08 as for which I would like to invite you at Jeffreys

ggg Salomon: Or other events

ggg Salomon: No no fee at all hehe

Emilie Cryotank: Ah ok

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: so why?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Why are you doing this?

ggg Salomon: All you have to do is to IM Emilie (Hermit Barber) and tell her ok please put my event or critic from the notecard on the platform

ggg Salomon: Ok, why we do this has to do with several reasons

Sky Hye: You have to go through a person to post an event?

ggg Salomon: 1) as you could see SE is and will be even a bigger organization

ggg Salomon: 2) we can reach people in the art field as we have a gallery too and

ggg Salomon: 3) we will use ArtMuse for events of the Smarter Earth Institute

ggg Salomon: such as dancing balls, firewords, art talks, exhibitions and more

Filthy Fluno: why do you keep referring to Hermit as Emilie... who is emilie.. why would she be known to us?

ggg Salomon: 4) at the same time we have a museum and can link are with environment issues in technologies as...

ggg Salomon: we have artists that will put up some of their pictures with the theme environment

ggg Salomon: but we deliberately do not want to exclude any artists as to say we only want environment themes

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: are you actively seeking artists?

ggg Salomon: Well, Hermit Barber is her Avatar name but she listens to Emilie mostly hehe

ggg Salomon: Well, if some want to exhibit we sure welcome artists at Jeffrey's museum of technology too

ggg Salomon: I could start now talking about entropy and show you the links

Filthy Fluno: does anyone feel inclined to do this.. if so.. please help me understand.. am i missing something here?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I am SO lost Gina

ggg Salomon: Art has to do with free expression which is great

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: there is a big picture I'm not getting.

ggg Salomon: lol

Cosmica Mornington: help!

Sky Hye: I am not clear what I gain by being involved in this.

Cosmica Mornington: again!

ggg Salomon: Ok, well lets start again

Filthy Fluno: no

Filthy Fluno: please

Filthy Fluno: don't start again

Cosmica Mornington: ack!

Sky Hye: no!

quadrapop Lane: Gina pleaseanswer thequestions that areasked

ggg Salomon: Not that way :)

ggg Salomon: Yes I try to answr

ggg Salomon: answer*

Sky Hye: Do you have to go through a person to post an event?

ggg Salomon: But it is like you would ask me define Mona Lisa's smile :)

Filthy Fluno: no

Filthy Fluno: it is not like that

Cosmica Mornington: omg

ggg Salomon: Yes, the administrator is Emilie, Hermit Barber

Sky Hye: Thank you.

ggg Salomon: But she willingly will post any time

Emilie Cryotank: And she is the only person who can post?

Cainin Griffith: OK.. so i post an event through SE..... what do i get out of it?

Sky Hye: Not very high tech

Filthy Fluno: please

Filthy Fluno: one question at a time folks

ggg Salomon: No, Meshed Gears is the other person and has access to but it would be a cross-functional task he can do but he does not know too much about art so questions would have to be responded by Emilie (Hermit Barber), but Meshed Gears can post too if Emilie is not around

Emilie Cryotank: k thnx

Manx Wharton: ok. so you have gatekeepers.

Filthy Fluno: gotta have gate keepers

ggg Salomon: Meshed Gears is responsible for EconAnnounce normally, but he wilingly will help and post too

Emilie Cryotank wispers that I am the keymaster

ArtMuse: Message originally sent on Feb 2, 2008:

Please Join us at The Crescent Moon Museum on 02-04-08 at 9:00 a.m. slt for an Exhibit of various Second Life artists.

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ggg Salomon: We are pretty informal company with lots of creative ideas too

Filthy Fluno: GGG

Filthy Fluno: please

ggg Salomon: Yes

Manx Wharton: LOOOOOL!

ggg Salomon: Well we do not want to limit any body as long as it does not have to do with illegal stuff hehe

Filthy Fluno: i think most of us are confused and feel this presentation is VERY difficult to see how it benefits artists

ggg Salomon: Yes, that might be

Filthy Fluno: artists like us

Filthy Fluno: not "artists"

Filthy Fluno: but the people here in front of you

ggg Salomon: Ok, I give you a rl example of an artist

ggg Salomon: Ok, there are artists of all sorts

Filthy Fluno: it would be easier for me just to walk around sims and shout announce my events

ggg Salomon: This artist is a well known arist and sells art for funding environment projects

ggg Salomon: but he deliberatley does do that

Manx Wharton: for an art dive, the music here is, uhm....

ggg Salomon: So noble and very affluent customer and clients buy his art

Filthy Fluno: oy vey

ggg Salomon: with that money he funds environmental projects

Filthy Fluno: here we go with the noble and affluent customers

ggg Salomon: And the customers know exactly that they want his art

ggg Salomon: because

ggg Salomon: 1) it is great

ggg Salomon: 2) they support something good

Sky Hye: Please tell us how this is helped by your ungroups?

Filthy Fluno: yes

Pi Pooraka: so this is more about marketing?

Filthy Fluno: connect your artist friend to artmuse ungroup kiosk

Cainin Griffith: SE is willing to offer the artists this "customer base" through association?

ggg Salomon: No, I just gave you an example

Sky Hye: huh?

Emilie Cryotank: this strikes me as a gig to help promote stuff... (events and whatnot)

ggg Salomon: its not what we will do but it might have synergies too

ggg Salomon: We never know

Filthy Fluno: yes emilie

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Ok folks, we've hit the one hour mark now.

ggg Salomon: To be frank with you our organization is a start up organization and will seek cooperations at different levels

Filthy Fluno: thank goodness... my head is spinning

Cosmica Mornington: right! time for a beer I think!

Filthy Fluno: yes

Emilie Cryotank: right on

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I know that Gina has a notecard with the full presentation if ou want it

Filthy Fluno: no thanks

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: And she does have a Sim opening coming up soon

quadrapop Lane: I agree Cosmica - make mine a red wine thanks...

Cosmica Mornington: great!

Filthy Fluno: but thanks for trying us out ggg

ggg Salomon: Yes, I can give you a notecard and you can ask me any question

Cosmica Mornington: a nice glass of Pinot In think....

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'm not sure I understood all of this but let me thank you gGina for putting up with us.

ggg Salomon: hehe yes no problem

ggg Salomon: I thank you for your attention :)

Emilie Cryotank: well at least this is logged

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Can you again mention when your opening is?

Manx Wharton: good info gina. definitely stay in touch.

ggg Salomon: Yes we will have grand opening Febr 14th 2008 at Jeffreys I will put you a LM in the presentation too

quadrapop Lane: thanksGina, i have one more questiion?

Pi Pooraka: good nite all....

ggg Salomon: you can also check out all our websites of our organizations

Filthy Fluno: night pi

ggg Salomon: yes sure

Emilie Cryotank: Night Pi

Cainin Griffith: night pi

quadrapop Lane: you mentiioned a series of talks at the beginning...

ggg Salomon: Good Pi

ggg Salomon Kisses You GOOD NIGHT!

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I gotta run also, bye all and tahnks again Gian

ggg Salomon: Yes