Art Talk - Rez and Critque

Guests: Shoshana Epsilon and Sky Hye

Host: PleaseWakeMeUp Idler

November 19, 2007


PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'm going to see if I can get into a chair... its difficult for me.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: being stuck in a box sucks sometimes...

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: hello. Welcome to ARt Talk!

Jouet Noel: Oh, hi

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Yes, hi back. Didn't expect a box, huh?

Jouet Noel: Hi box

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ARe you here for the talk?

Jouet Noel: Ya

Jouet Noel: You want to wake up now?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Wonderful, have a seat.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I think I wake up when I log out.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: We're a wee bit early, I expect more teh regulars to show up.

Shoshana Epsilon: I won't talk about being regular or not.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Hello Max!

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ha!

Max Janick: laggin somethin awful

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: That's ok, have a coffee

Max Janick: not sure that'll help

Shoshana Epsilon: How about a martini?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: but your avatar might appreciate it.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Ahh yes, that's better, or a single malt.

Max Janick: My avatar doesn't consume

Max Janick: tis a mere vehicle

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: good for it!

Shoshana Epsilon: Nor am I a consumer. I'm a customer.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: a vehicel? i'm just a box, you got lucky when they handed them out.

Max Janick: the secret was to book well in advance

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Customer of what?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: good one

Shoshana Epsilon: (I hate the word "consumer")

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ahhh yes, I see.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: and I can see wh.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Well, it is time.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Today I'd likke to talk about the art we ourselves make. Are we all artists here?

Shoshana Epsilon: Relatively speaking.

Jouet Noel: Same here

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Max, you do music, right?

Max Janick: musician/writer, yeah

Max Janick: And I'm semi-afk a minute or two

Max Janick: but I'll keep up

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: both arts, harder to rez though.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Oh, no problem at all.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Does anybody want to go first? Note, you will not be able to rez here, that's to keep the griefers down. If you give a piece, I can rez it, and don't worry, I'll not keep it.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Hello Shang! Have a seat

Shoshana Epsilon: Even tho I display here?

Shangreloo Kuhn: Hi everyone.

Babbler3.17: Bonjour chacun.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: You can try... I don't think it will work.

Shoshana Epsilon: Tada

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: hey, it worked. My little sister!

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: You killed her!

Shoshana Epsilon: What would you like to see?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: That's up to you. Display something and we'll talk about it.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ahhhh, I've seen this at your place

Shoshana Epsilon: It's one of my favorites.

Jouet Noel: That's a great picure

Jouet Noel: Picture

Jouet Noel: I saw it earlier

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Is it 'shopped or not? (Nothing against 'shopping, I do it all the time.)

Shoshana Epsilon: I could take it down and pull up anther one, if you like.

Shoshana Epsilon: No shopping at all.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: No, we can talk about this one

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I love it.

Shoshana Epsilon: Actually, I cropped it

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: So how did you get the color, or lack thereof, to make her eyes come out like that?

Shoshana Epsilon: This is SL, Wake. That's her avatar.

Shoshana Epsilon: I saw her ...

Shoshana Epsilon: and I fell in love with her look ...

Shoshana Epsilon: so I looked in my inventory on my computer ...

Shoshana Epsilon: found a suitable picture for a backdrop ...

Shoshana Epsilon: uploaded it and placed it on a wall prim.

Shoshana Epsilon: We were talking ... she never even noticed.

Jouet Noel: IT's very cool

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Wild story. Do you think she knows?

Shoshana Epsilon: She didn't. I gave her a copy of it several months later.

Shoshana Epsilon: She now has it in her home in SL.

Shangreloo Kuhn: Cool.

Gracie Kendal: Hiya :)

Shoshana Epsilon: Hello Gracie!

Shangreloo Kuhn: Hi Gracie.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I would think that ify ou set out to do it, it would be harder, wondeful capturing of the moment

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Hi Gracie!

Shoshana Epsilon: Absolutely. I could never recreate this.

Gracie Kendal: Hi blackthorne :)

Shoshana Epsilon: Well, not quite true. I tried once.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I also love the backdrop. I wish Filthy was here, he is always on about merging RL and SL. This does it well.

Shoshana Epsilon: Let me see if I can find the attempt.

Sky Hye: HI everyone.

Gracie Kendal: wow..things just rezzed

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Hello Blackthorn, have a seat and welcome to Art Talk

Shangreloo Kuhn: Hi Sky, Blackthorn.

Blackthorn Hare: hi, ty

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Hey Sky!

Sky Hye: Sorry I'm late.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: NP

Sky Hye: Are we critiquing?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: For theose just getting here, we're taking turns rezzing stuff and talking about it.

Shoshana Epsilon: There.

Blackthorn Hare: are we rezzing images or actual objects?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: not the same model

Shoshana Epsilon: No, the second one is me.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Sho works in flats.

Shoshana Epsilon: I wanted to attempt to create the same feel.

Shoshana Epsilon: But its not at all the same.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: The original has a much more mysterious expression

Shoshana Epsilon: The second one is photo shopped.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: no, not at all!

Shangreloo Kuhn: No, completely different feel to the two pictures.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: You look happy almost, the first woman looks resigned, as if she has a weight on her shoulders

Shoshana Epsilon: Yes, she's quite goth.

Shangreloo Kuhn: I think uncertain in the first.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: quite

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Uncertain of what?

Shangreloo Kuhn: She looks almost as if she's going to do or say something.. but isn't sure if she should.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ooo, I like that, yes.

Shangreloo Kuhn: In the second, the subject looks much mosr confident.

Shangreloo Kuhn: more*

Gracie Kendal: brb

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Shoshana, why do you call the 2nd one an "attempt"?

Sky Hye: Which one came first? I got in after you rezzed both.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: sepia i s1st

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: is 1st

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: and it isn't sepia, that's the scene.

Sky Hye: Okay, thanks.

Shoshana Epsilon smiles

Shoshana Epsilon: You are using your RL eyes.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yes, true.

Shoshana Epsilon: Violet Eyes was the first one.

Shoshana Epsilon: The other was a picture from the beta grid that I photoshopped heavily.

Sky Hye: Can you bring me up to speed here? What is the necessary background, so I know how to comment.

Shoshana Epsilon: Violet Eyes .. that is her avatar, with a backdrop I threw up while we were talking.

Sky Hye: Yes?

Blackthorn Hare: Shoshana, can you tell me what your aims are for this work? It has the quality of illustration, it strongly suggests a narrative, is there an application for these beyond what we're seeing here?

Shoshana Epsilon: Eveyrone I know says it looks like a part of the story. I think that's awesome ...

Sky Hye: What story?

Shoshana Epsilon: but I was struck by the lighting and her color and I threw up something complimentary.

Shoshana Epsilon: So, my focus was on color and composition of layout, not on any story. (Sorry to disappoint.)

Blackthorn Hare: yes, what story?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Are you asking what story do you see in it now?

Sky Hye: You said, "the story..."?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I see sadness, despair

Shoshana Epsilon: Sorry, "the story" ... I meant "a story"

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I see that both in the color, which is goth, but in how she holds herself, which Ifind remarkable, it is ethir a coincidence or a great AO.

Sky Hye: Okay.

Shoshana Epsilon: At the time, she was going through an SL separation.

Blackthorn Hare: the sepia tone image I find much more engaging, it's perhaps because she seems to be in a world and of it, rather than against a backdrop

Shoshana Epsilon: She was sad and telling me about how she missed her girl.

Blackthorn Hare: so is this primarily portraiture?

Shoshana Epsilon: I do primarily portrature.

Sky Hye: The expression could be a result of "smile" slider being turned down. Was this an animation pose?

Shoshana Epsilon: This was in the midst of the conversation. It may have been a glitch in animation between other animations.

Sky Hye: Okay.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: It turned out wonderfully.

Shoshana Epsilon: (I love the way SL allows me to feeze a picture so I can get the best angle)

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: It can?????

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: You can freeze a scene?

Shoshana Epsilon smiles.

Shoshana Epsilon: Yes.

Sky Hye: That's a good feature. I use that a lot.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I gotta play with that.

Shoshana Epsilon: Hit the snapshot button. Make sure the "freeze frame" button is selected.

Shoshana Epsilon: You all know about clt-0 zoom, yes?

Sky Hye: Sure.

Shangreloo Kuhn: Yes.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: that is cool, I stopped rotating!

Jouet Noel: Yes

Shoshana Epsilon smiles

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'm so going to use that.

Shoshana Epsilon: lol

Shoshana Epsilon: Glad to be of service.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'm about to shoot an SL model for the second time, I'm glad to know that.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: 1st time was a lot of work,

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: oh yes, time flies.

Sky Hye: And then, you mention that the 2nd one is heavily photoshopped. Was there a goal for that outcome?

Jouet Noel: Are you into photography Please>

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Who wants to go next?

Sky Hye: Did anyone already volunteer?

Shoshana Epsilon: Sky, I was trying to recreate the mood, and failed utterly. It's a lovely picture, but completely different in feel.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I have dabbled in it in RL, just started showing some works in my gallery here.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: But I guess my scuptures are really photographs, so yes, I guess I am.

Sky Hye: I see. Let me see... C'est la vie. I guess we're moving on...

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: any volunteers?

Sky Hye: I can go, if you want.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'm good with that.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: If you can't rez, gift the piece to me and I'll rez it.

Sky Hye: What kind of stuff are you guys interested in?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'll delete it afterwards

Sky Hye: Painting, drawing, monotype?

Blackthorn Hare: I have some pieces, but I think they're too big to rez, what's your prim limit?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: We'll do you after Sky

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I think we can handle 100 safely

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: 150 is doable

Blackthorn Hare: hmmm, mine are larger -- tell you what, when you're done here, Gracie can TP any interested parties to one of my pieces

Blackthorn Hare: this is a great idea for a group but not suitable for my work, I wish you luck, the quality of the critique is good from what i heard

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: how many do you need?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I can ask filthy

Sky Hye: There.

Sky Hye: Hecuba's Child

Sky Hye: Oil on linen

Shoshana Epsilon: Oh my. Someone with real talent.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ahhh, tehre, it rezzed.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Yes, wonderful!

Sky Hye: Hecuba is , omg, I can't remember the name.

Sky Hye: Never believed.

Shangreloo Kuhn: Beautiful face.

Sky Hye: She warned everyone of doom, but was ignored.

Gracie Kendal: sorry, Im back :)

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: horrid fate

Gracie Kendal: RL

Gracie Kendal: arghhh

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: That's one of the Greek tragedies, right?

Sky Hye: I can't remember her name right now. She is a character in Greek mythology.

Shangreloo Kuhn: Cassandra?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: She looks like a teenager, bored with the world

Sky Hye: Yes, Cassandra

Shangreloo Kuhn: My niece's name.

Sky Hye: Could she be degected?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: could be, yes

Sky Hye: It's a bit ambiguous, I admit.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I have a teenage daughter in RL, you capture that very well.

Sky Hye: Heh

Sky Hye: The woman who bought this painting reports that the expression changes for her, depending on light, and her own mood.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I can believe that.

Sky Hye: The ambiguous expression allows that.

Gracie Kendal: Im sorry guys..I ahve to run

Shangreloo Kuhn: Yeah, I can see that.

Gracie Kendal: sorry I couldnt be here more

Shangreloo Kuhn: Bye Gracie.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Did you set out to capture the ambiguity?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: bye!

Sky Hye: Bye Gracie

Gracie Kendal: Ill seeyou all soon :)))

Shoshana Epsilon: Bye!

Jouet Noel: Bye

Sky Hye: Well, is that it? Any comments? Questions?

Shoshana Epsilon: This picture has a wonderful classical feel.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yes,

Shoshana Epsilon: All it is missing is the cracks in the paint.

Sky Hye: Hehe

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Did you set out to capture the ambiguity?

Sky Hye: Yes.

Sky Hye: Definitely.

Jouet Noel: Yes, classical. Was that your intention?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Was it in the model or just in your hands?

Sky Hye: My hands. I changed the appearance of the model to get the result.

Sky Hye: It was to be classical

Sky Hye: It is a treatment of the Greek myth, but only as a small thought on the matter.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: why classical? That is so unusual.

Sky Hye: I am drawn to classical art.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ahhhhh....

Sky Hye: When I see it, I want to do it, too.

Shoshana Epsilon imagins her butt is cold.

Sky Hye: Heh

Jouet Noel: Sky, do you show your work in a SL gallery?

Sky Hye: Yes. For a month, it was here in Artropolis.

Sky Hye: Now, I am setting up a new gallery.

Jouet Noel: Ahhh

Shoshana Epsilon: Sky, the colors in her skin are a bit strange.

Sky Hye: It's not done yet.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: She was the Oct guest artist here

Shoshana Epsilon: Ah.

Sky Hye: Hes, Shoshana?

Sky Hye: Yes?

Shoshana Epsilon: Well, her right arm and feet are pinker ..

Sky Hye: Are you speaking of the greens?

Shoshana Epsilon: her torso and left arm are yellowed in the classical manner.

Shoshana Epsilon: (Green? Ok.)

Sky Hye: All of the colors are based on use by Italian Renaissance painters.

Shoshana Epsilon: I recognize the color palate ..

Sky Hye: The skin coloring is like you see in many of their paintings.

Sky Hye: Yes, the green halftone was very, very common.

Sky Hye: It started in gothic icon painting.

Shoshana Epsilon: but the pink vs green, is that typical?

Shoshana Epsilon: The green, yes. And the face was frequently peach, as yours is.

Sky Hye: Of, course, I didn't completely follow every last thing about those older paintings.

Shoshana Epsilon: Not that I am a classical artist, but I would be inclined to tone back the right arm, just a bit.

Sky Hye: I melded other things.

Shoshana Epsilon nods

Sky Hye: Her right arm?

Shoshana Epsilon: Yes, the pink one.

Shoshana Epsilon: Near her shoulder

Shoshana Epsilon: (I love the way you got the musculature right, tho)

Sky Hye: Hmm. That has never been a complaint about the actual painting. I wonder if something is off about the reproduction.

Shoshana Epsilon: Or my monitor.

Sky Hye: Could be.

Shoshana Epsilon: Oops, I need to run! RL calls.

Shoshana Epsilon: Wonderful work, Sky!

Shoshana Epsilon: Bye!

Sky Hye: Thanks.

Sky Hye: Bye.

Shoshana Epsilon poofs

Sky Hye accepted your inventory offer.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: bye!

Shangreloo Kuhn: Bye Shoshana.

Jouet Noel: bye

Jouet Noel: Sky you know what

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: wow...

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'm glad I could listen in on that.

Sky Hye: Yes?

Jouet Noel: It reminds me of Rapheal and Da Vinci

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Hi Grim!

Sky Hye: Not surprising. I look at their work a lot.

Grimfiddle Dogpatch: Hello, sorry I'm late.

Jouet Noel: Her hair

Jouet Noel: the way you styled it

Shangreloo Kuhn: Hi Grimfiddle.

Jouet Noel: she could be one of the angles

Sky Hye: Yes. I think you'rre right. I chose my model because of her Italian Renaissance look.

Jouet Noel: It shows

Jouet Noel: It's as though i could

Jouet Noel: look up this painting in and art history book

Sky Hye: Heh

Jouet Noel: Who did you study with?

Sky Hye: People always say these look like they belong in a museum.

Sky Hye: I had to teach myself.

Jouet Noel: So you've traveled to Italy?

Jouet Noel: Florence

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: You are self taught?

Sky Hye: When I wanted to learn these things, no one was teaching it.

Jouet Noel: Ahhh

Sky Hye: Yes, I saw Italy.

Grimfiddle Dogpatch: Very much in the style of Bougereau.

Jouet Noel: It shows

Sky Hye: Yes, there is a small sampling of lessons from Bougereau.

Grimfiddle Dogpatch: Very fine work !

Sky Hye: Thanks.

Jouet Noel: Do you teach in SL?

Sky Hye: No, I'm trying to figure out how to teach (critique) with no way to point.

Jouet Noel: Ahhh

Sky Hye: I don't want to have to write an essay just to get people to look at a particular little place.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: THere was someone here, a month ago,

Jouet Noel: THere must be some gestures

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: who painted in SL I think.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I never got a chance to ask him how.

Grimfiddle Dogpatch: Are you a fan of the symbolist painters?

Sky Hye: I wonder how that is done?

Sky Hye: Sure, I like them, Grimfiddle.

Jouet Noel: I know what you mean about so much typing.

Jouet Noel: I want to get a mic

Sky Hye: Heh

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: (Folks, I have to relog, I'm starting to crash)

Connecting to in-world Voice Chat...

Connected

Second Life: Can't create object 'Object' because the parcel 'Throwing Stones Gallery' at Artropolis 167.896, 242.006 does not allow it. Notifications from this region are temporarily deactivated.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'm back!

Sky Hye: wb, wake

Jouet Noel: Hi again

Sky Hye: Is anyone voice enabled right now?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: thanks. I hope they fix the macintosh crashing...

Filthy Fluno: hello

Jouet Noel: no

Grimfiddle Dogpatch: I teach, paint and do digital collage. I am building a replica of an indian temple on my sim currently.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I am, but I won't use it.

Sky Hye: Hi Filthy.

Shangreloo Kuhn: Hi Filthy.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Right on time boss!

Filthy Fluno: FilThis is actually filthy's wife

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: oh, hi!

Filthy Fluno: He asked me to log in and apologize for not showing up

Filthy Fluno: He has a a stomach bug

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: apologies accepted

Sky Hye: Hello, Filthy's wife.

Shangreloo Kuhn: Hi Filthy's wife.

Filthy Fluno: Hi

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Tell him we all want him better.

Filthy Fluno: He ia alitle out of it but remembered that there was an 'art talk" toite

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I appreciate it. Thank you.

Sky Hye: Please say hi to him for me. :)

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I can here you....

Filthy Fluno: Yes i can hear

Filthy Fluno: But I have to go now...sorry

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: bye

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: For me, voice breaks the RL/SL barrier

Filthy Fluno: Bye have a good talk

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: and I like that barrier

Filthy Fluno: and good luck with technical difficulties

Shangreloo Kuhn: Bye.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: bye

Filthy Fluno: Ciao!

Sky Hye: Wake, you gave me a snapshot earlier.... Is there a way to take a snapshot inworld and not pay to keep it or give it to another avatar?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Did people like the topic? I did and I'd love to do it again.

Sky Hye: It was fine for me.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I think the Linden's always get the $L10.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: There has to be a cost or the resource will be squandered

Sky Hye: Okay. Thanks for the cool shot. I'd never get one like that, as I can't type and shoot at the same moment... I don't think I can, anyway.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: It was a shot of the moment.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Sorry for the private chat

Sky Hye: Sorry

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: When Sky and Sho were talking, I took a neat shot of sky.

Jouet Noel: No problem

Jouet Noel: I was just thinking

Jouet Noel: Can a snap shot

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: It shows her against a backdrop of teh painting

Jouet Noel: be displayed for all to see on the screen?

Jouet Noel: You could then "print screnr

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: You need to put it in a prim, like Sky did when she showed her piece

Jouet Noel: *screne

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yes...

Jouet Noel: Too bad

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: why?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: why is it "too bad?"

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: hmmmm, anybody?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Did I crash again?

Sky Hye: We

Jouet Noel: I don't think so

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: oh, good

Sky Hye: We're here.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Ok, our 1 hour is up.

Jouet Noel: So Wake, lets see some of your work?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'd like to do this again, but Filthy and I are planning a special Art Talk

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: We can save me for 2 weeks from now.

Sky Hye: For next week?

Jouet Noel: Where

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: It was supposed to be this week but he is sick.

Sky Hye: What's it about?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Oh, here,

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I want to continue the Rights talk from last week, with a panel of artists and gallery owners.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: But he has been laid up.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: And somehow without all the animosity.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: And I promise I'll show one of my pieces, but since the show is mine, I don't feel right doing it if others want ot.

Sky Hye: That sounds great, Wake.

Sky Hye: You got a huge turnout last week.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I think it will be, as long as people behave.

Sky Hye: Very exciting.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: 38 people!

Sky Hye: I was so impressed being a part of something like that.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I put a new coat of varnish on for it.

Sky Hye: Heh

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Yes, it was cool, wasn't it?

Sky Hye: Loved it!

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Like being bpart of a revolution

Sky Hye: I think sl really is some sort of a revolution.

Jouet Noel: I do to

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Until next week folks, still the same time, but the next one will likely be later, not teh special one, but the real one.

Grimfiddle Dogpatch: Nods

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Probably 1 1/2 hours later

Sky Hye: I'd like to make it get better and better for us artists.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Filthy said he wants to spearhad that effort, or some verb, I forget.

Sky Hye: Works for me!

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I tihnk the Ressable people have their hearst in the right place, just didn't think things through.

Sky Hye: I can come, even if it is held later.

Sky Hye: You really think so?