Art Talk - Free Form Discussion

Host: PleaseWakeMeUp Idler

November 26 , 2007


PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: This is Art Talk, I see new faces and old faces.

Transparent Banshee: you'l hurt yourself

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: We meeting weekly to talk about art!

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Some of us are artists, some not.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I sometimes have a topic but this week I don't.

Filthy Fluno: a few peeps are having trouble with teleporting

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Last week...

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: we had artists rez a piece and we discussed it.

Transparent Banshee: we are all individuals.....

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: We had a lot of fun doing that last week and I'd like to do it again.

Friendly Frog: does "rez" mean make a piece?

Filthy Fluno: wake

Filthy Fluno: i'd also like to throw something out to the group

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: "rez" means to create the piece here, I can help you.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Sure!

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: go ahead Filthy.

Filthy Fluno: with so many artists in SL now... i've been thinking if we can start to see some common iconography and symbols is starting to be common symbols

Filthy Fluno: yikes!

Filthy Fluno: what happened to that sentence?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: too much popcorn

Filthy Fluno: yea

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Go on.

Filthy Fluno: ok

Filthy Fluno: like... symbols and icons

Filthy Fluno: are people starting to see common vocabularies?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: tell us more, what do you see is common

Filthy Fluno: i'm not sure yet.. but wanna ask everyone to start looking to see!

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I see a lot of experimentation,

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: the media are new.

Filthy Fluno: and see if peeps have observations?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Often when creating, I make things I didn't start out to make, because I didn't know I could do "that."

Filthy Fluno: has anyone else seen anything like this

Filthy Fluno: or am i nuts and let's just rezz some art

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: It is a good topic, lets run with it.

Filthy Fluno: that's a loaded question

Filthy Fluno: here's what i mean...

Filthy Fluno: the word "LOL"

Eizi Gustav: lol

Filthy Fluno: came from internet lingo

Filthy Fluno: now.. you see it everywhere

Kelseigh Miranda: Well, you see it everywhere on the internet

Filthy Fluno: what's the icon, or language that's coming from SL and ending up in people's RL

Kelseigh Miranda: But the internet is in more places

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: much more

Transparent Banshee: I have yet to hear somebody say "LOL" in RL

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I find myself wanting to move my camera in RL!

Filthy Fluno: not say it

Filthy Fluno: but see it

Kelseigh Miranda: I've found myself wondering what poses dandelion fluffballs are scripted with

Transparent Banshee: YEAH...I'm probably getting nuts, cause I do that too

Ariadne Recreant: it's common text derived from Web 2.0, a part of the social way of communicating

Transparent Banshee: heheheh...

Filthy Fluno: ok... but from here in SL

Filthy Fluno: what's specific to peeps in here?

Kelseigh Miranda: Mind you, the growth of text messaging, and thus the necessity of abbreviated language, helps spread such things as LOL

Filthy Fluno: i certainly here more about the word avatar since being in SL

Filthy Fluno: hear

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: you do???

Filthy Fluno: yes

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: in what context?

Ariadne Recreant: same with me

Kelseigh Miranda: Hear it more, or notice it more readily?

Ariadne Recreant: A friend of mine didnt even realize avatar existed outside of SL

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: wild...

Filthy Fluno: there was something on the news the other morning about job recruiters looking for talent here in SL

Filthy Fluno: basically saying.. if you don't have an avatar in today's job market.. you're screwed

Transparent Banshee: is there talent here ?

Filthy Fluno: wise ass

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: that's surprising to me, I thought corporate world had given up in SL

Kelseigh Miranda: Is camping a talent?

Filthy Fluno: nope

Filthy Fluno: just need to realize its the people in here i think that's the best resource for corporate america

Filthy Fluno: not the big ass builds

Filthy Fluno: and fancy shmancy textures

Ariadne Recreant: a major recruiting firm has just set up shop in SL

Transparent Banshee: ok...

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: maybe I should send them a resume!

Filthy Fluno: more than one ariadne

Friendly Frog: what are they recruiting for?

Filthy Fluno: recruiting for techie creative peeps

Friendly Frog: that makes sense

Ariadne Recreant: They are recruting for RL positions since there are RL people behind the avatars

Filthy Fluno: yes

Ariadne Recreant: SL people are very creative... it's might be a good pool

Spirit Cleanslate: /in marketing the trend is that everyone will have an avatar for personal RL use on all items of communications and interactions such as transactions. Just as u have one for email, you will have one as an identifier

Filthy Fluno: RL=Real Life for our noobies here tonight

Filthy Fluno: there's no talent in camping kelseigh

Filthy Fluno: why you ask that?

Kelseigh Miranda: Because that's a lot of what I see occurring, often in large numbers, in SL

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Folks like me, with more than one avatar, and more than one appearance per avatar, we'll be confusing.

Friendly Frog: Someone told me that CNN set up a headquarters in second life too

Transparent Banshee: actually the people who stays here normally has some kind of talnet...

Friendly Frog: does anyone here know anything about that?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: CNN?

Ariadne Recreant: yes CNN has there are many large corporations here Frog

Filthy Fluno: camping is when someone just clicks on an object and they earn a little money

Friendly Frog: I don't know about it but I was curious if they were reporting SL news or RL news

Filthy Fluno: the venue owner earns traffic points for having people camping

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: but after the initial splash, did they do anything worthwhile?

Filthy Fluno: frog.. check out slnn.com and avastar.com

Kelseigh Miranda: The ones I really look to though, are the ones who experiment with the world and its abilities, and what you can pull out of scripting and building. Not necessarily for art's sake, at least not consciously, but out of sheer curiosity

Filthy Fluno: they're fun

Kelseigh Miranda: I've got friends who do that, and they come up with some really wild stuff.

Filthy Fluno: like what kels?

Kelseigh Miranda: One-way permeable barriers, spontaneous force fields, colour walls, unusual variations on follow pets, that sort of thing.

Filthy Fluno: oh!

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: people who push the edge

Kelseigh Miranda: Do you mind if I rez a couple of pics? I could illustrate one thing that was created, and my reaction.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: no, go ahead.

Transparent Banshee: unusual pets...cool

Friendly Frog: do it!

Kelseigh Miranda: Oh, never mind. It's no build

Filthy Fluno: yes.. rez away

Filthy Fluno: i'll fix that

Filthy Fluno: one sec

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: If you have a permission problem, just gift it to me please, or filthy.

Kelseigh Miranda: Yes, a frend made a Metroid that attacks on command.

Filthy Fluno: try now

Ariadne Recreant: Well I think something SL lends for artist especially.... is that a RL paintercan end up being an SL sculptor or photographer, he can play with other mediums he might not necessarily try in RL

Filthy Fluno: good point ari

Transparent Banshee: that is very true

Filthy Fluno: freeedom to be and do what you want

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: or mediums can be mixed

Kelseigh Miranda: Basically, what my friend was doing was creating shifting colour scripts in a transparent prim.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I consider myself mostly to be a photographic sculptor.

Kelseigh Miranda: Assuming SL lets me get into my inventory

Filthy Fluno: lol. the organizer of singingarc... a concert in Las Vegas of SL musicians

Filthy Fluno: in RL he's not a musician or music promoter per se

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Friendly, there is a picture being built off to your side

Friendly Frog: daniel and i were interested in the fact that programming is used to make each object here, so there are artistic protocols around what can be done in the way of adapting art objects

Filthy Fluno: but such a fan of SL music he's organizing it

Kelseigh Miranda: That particular shade and intensity ended up becoming something like a bamboo forest, made of light

Friendly Frog: like a painting could conceivably become a hat unless people observe the same codes and philosophies around respecting the original

Filthy Fluno: the tools are quite cool friendly

Friendly Frog: we read this in SLART or online somewhere

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: tell us about what we are seeing please

Filthy Fluno: and lots of disprespect going on

Filthy Fluno: which is nice

Friendly Frog: do you find that people tend to be respectufl of other artworks and so on?

Filthy Fluno: well

Filthy Fluno: other's artworks yes

Filthy Fluno: but i long to turn some of my drawings into underwear

Kelseigh Miranda: The image is basically a single large prim, with a cript to make verticle colour strands. As I said, in this case, it became a grass forest made from light.

Friendly Frog: but you have a no build zone here, is that to prevent vandilism>

Filthy Fluno: yes

Filthy Fluno: there are known griefers

Filthy Fluno: who like to mess with popular sims

Kelseigh Miranda: That was created by sheer accident, as with a lot of this individual's creations. Spontaneous art.

Filthy Fluno: they are here to disrupt any kind of commerce

Ariadne Recreant: there's a word unique to SL.. "griefers"

Kelseigh Miranda: Is it unique? I thought it happened in other places like Everquest.

Filthy Fluno: commerce and community

Ariadne Recreant: Well i just think of "hacker" when i think griefer

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: what did your friend intend to create when he made the wall?

Transparent Banshee: well so do I actually

Filthy Fluno: you do what transparent?

Kelseigh Miranda: Nothing in particular. Simply to play with the possibilities of the scripting and colours

Transparent Banshee: I also think of hacker wehn people are talking grienfers

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: and that happened, very nice.

Kelseigh Miranda: there's a group of friends that experiment a lot.l

Filthy Fluno: so friendly...

Filthy Fluno: some griefing is actually pretty great visual art

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: that's what I was saying earlier, I don't know if we have common symbols because much of what we do is too new.

Transparent Banshee: they have in common the disrespect for other peoples work

Filthy Fluno: if you don't take into the fact that its fucking up people's experiences in here

Kelseigh Miranda: This image was a further layer of experimentation, where it became a series of verticle planes, transparent wtih colour on them, affording me a chance for a bit of abstract "photography"

Kelseigh Miranda: I've been seeing a lot of art created with the intention of it being art of a similar nature in SL

Filthy Fluno: oh?

Filthy Fluno: in RL?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yes, ok?

Kelseigh Miranda: Boofhead Oh is one artist who works in it.

Kelseigh Miranda: Nono, in SL

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: oh?

Avvie detector xy: Couldn't find animation fall1-4

Avvie detector xy: Couldn't find animation fall1-4

Avvie detector xy: Couldn't find animation MaleWalk-3

Avvie detector xy: Couldn't find animation MaleWalk-3

Filthy Fluno: hey fangorn!

Filthy Fluno: come in here dude!

Ariadne Recreant: filthy, fangorn will arrive if you dont mind

Filthy Fluno: yea.. he's in the wall behind you i think

Ariadne Recreant: oops

Kelseigh Miranda: In the case of my friends, it's more art as an unconscious creation, and to a degree the act as art.

Fangorn Dengaku: hehe

Transparent Banshee: I thought wake was the fangron here

Filthy Fluno: is there such a athing as unconcious creation?

Transparent Banshee: fangron

Transparent Banshee: fangorn

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: interesting, I had a working theory weeks ago that art was the result of focus

Friendly Frog: we were just saying that here in RL, that the act of creating any of the functional objects in SL is an act of artistic creation to an extent, so what differentiates SL art from SL other things?

Filthy Fluno: great question frog

Filthy Fluno: we talk about that alot

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I'm not sure I buy that.

Filthy Fluno: like this table

Kelseigh Miranda: Well, it's interesting that I've been reading up lately on the Modernists, and the idea of act as art, expressed as painting or whatever, is fresh in my mind

Filthy Fluno: my avatar

Filthy Fluno: this sim

Filthy Fluno: my popcorn

Filthy Fluno: ariadne's sexeh legs

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: that wolud be pop art

Filthy Fluno: lol

Friendly Frog: I actually agree

Filthy Fluno: ari.. he's calling your sexeh legs pop art

Friendly Frog: no just the popcorn, lol

Filthy Fluno: oh

Ariadne Recreant: Hahaha....

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I think it still comes down to focus, but that isn't universally accepted.

Ariadne Recreant: shoot i'd buy these legs as art

Filthy Fluno: lol

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Let me get my pincers on those legs...

Kelseigh Miranda: Performance art

Filthy Fluno: hands off!

Filthy Fluno: check out the photo on the wall

Filthy Fluno: of wake without a head

Filthy Fluno: the photo is art.. no?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Filthy took it as collateral on a loan

Friendly Frog: which one is the photo?

Filthy Fluno: the headless avatar?

Friendly Frog: wait we found it

Filthy Fluno: what does it mean?

Filthy Fluno: k

Kelseigh Miranda: Beside the coffee poster

Friendly Frog: is that a screenshot?

Filthy Fluno: yees

Filthy Fluno: its a regular old screenshot

Filthy Fluno: taken right here

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I came to this event without a head one day.

Kelseigh Miranda: There's a feature in SL that allows for "snapshots"

Filthy Fluno: but.. think about how that photo creates a loop

Friendly Frog: how?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: A photo in SL of a photo in SL

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: douglas Hofstatder,

Filthy Fluno: of information.. tweaked and then photographed

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Godel, Escher, Bach, good, but difficult, read.

Filthy Fluno: like mirrors of twisted circus or that thing.. umm.. fun house

Kelseigh Miranda: I tried G,E,B, but it was a bit beyond me at the time.

Filthy Fluno: geb?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yeah, hard going...

Friendly Frog: have you guys heard of that artists group that did the thirteen most beautiful avatars?

Kelseigh Miranda: Godel, Escher, Bach

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: GEB = Godel, Escher, Bach

Transparent Banshee: like Wolframs "Anew kind of science" never got through that

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: important book from the 80s? on the meaning of meaning and so on.

Filthy Fluno: thirteen most beautiful artists?

Kelseigh Miranda: Yeah, I've always had a hard time with postmodernism and suchlike

Friendly Frog: Eva and Franco Mattes did a piece of photographs taken in SL -- screenshots

Filthy Fluno: people do that shit all the time

Friendly Frog: they considered it like Andy Warhol's factory

Filthy Fluno: ALL the time in here

Filthy Fluno: avatar contests

Filthy Fluno: same thing

Friendly Frog: In the tradition of taking a found activity happening around them and becoming the author of its re-presentation iN RL

Friendly Frog: do people then exhibit them in RL as well?

Filthy Fluno: yes

Friendly Frog: Had you guys heard of them before? I was curious what their reputation was in SL

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I've not heard of them.

Filthy Fluno: i heard of the show.. not the SL'ers

Friendly Frog: I was at a gallery opening in New York where they showed this work, and thought it was interesting... I met Filthy not too long after...

Filthy Fluno: hey crap

Kelseigh Miranda: I'm not too conversant in the impact of SL on RL

Filthy Fluno: get in on this dude

Crap Mariner: ok

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Does SL impact RL artistically? OR is teh flow one way?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I know Filthy thinks it is 2way.

Crap Mariner: How can it not have an influence?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: works to make it 2 way

Filthy Fluno: it flows both ways

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: It could not have an influence by being too small.

Kelseigh Miranda: I don't think SL is actually influential enough at this point to have a significant impact. There'd be flow, but small yet.

Crap Mariner: It's like tasting a new ingredient or style of cooking. It will influence your own cooking.

Filthy Fluno: not only in artistic content

Filthy Fluno: but also how the artists relate to the world

Filthy Fluno: the RL world

Kelseigh Miranda: But a lot of SL art happend within SL, doesn't it?

Filthy Fluno: and does business

Crap Mariner: It may not have you playing with magnets and thin wires to try to make things hang in air, but it will certainly influence your way of approaching your work.

Filthy Fluno: at its best.. it become part of the art

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: all mine does, except for the some source images, so yes, I gess you are right.

Filthy Fluno: at its worst.. a flash in the pan egocentric marketing campaign

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ha!

Ariadne Recreant: There's a sense of perfection in SL.... something that can't necessarily be achieved in RL... does that effect artists as well? Will that make them not want to return to RL to create?

Friendly Frog: What do you think of museums getting in on second life, is this similar to the "egocentric marketing campaign" of corporations or recruiters?

Filthy Fluno: it can be

Filthy Fluno: for sure

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: but that is coupled with a sense of frustration in SL, you can't do what you want sometimes.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: How are RL museums in SL? ARe they making an impact?

Filthy Fluno: nope

Crap Mariner: Friendly Frog - I'm experienced with museums wanting to get copies of their buildings OUT of SL. The Guggenheim folks want to tear down the "replica" I made for freereed on Nowhereville.

Fangorn Dengaku: the speed of SL is what keeps me from going back to RL

Filthy Fluno: most of them just become senior housing for art

Friendly Frog: NICE!

Friendly Frog: did the guggenheim museum stay or go?

Friendly Frog: we would really like to see it

Crap Mariner: the main shell is still there. tuna has some stuff in it.

Crap Mariner: Nowhereville.... SW corner.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: by Transparent an!

Friendly Frog: OH WE ARE DYING TO SEE IT

Ariadne Recreant: Frog... I think many "big names" were trying to get established in SL without a really well thought out plan

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: bye Spirit! sleep well

Kelseigh Miranda: I wonder sometimes if the rush to digital work is providing an excuse for a lot of artists to actually avoid RL

Eizi Gustav: bye

Ariadne Recreant: So the newer businesses coming into SL know are learning from "mistakes"

Filthy Fluno: I'm bringing to RL companies into SL

Filthy Fluno: by way of an arts/music festival

Ariadne Recreant: because an island in SL is just like a website, if it just "exists" so what? YOu still need to generate the traffice and interest to it

Friendly Frog: Filthy, did you think that the RL gallery show you did had a good impact/response in SL?

Anton Jefferson: hi all

Filthy Fluno: yes.. totally

Crap Mariner: The early adopters are learning that the logo or brand is not the attractor. It's the community and the viral marketing potential.

Friendly Frog: Ariadne, that's sort of like a museum too

Filthy Fluno: Frog

Filthy Fluno: there was interaction between avatars and real life people

Filthy Fluno: that seldom happens

Crap Mariner: A build without community or interaction or something to experience 24/7 is just a masoleum.

Ariadne Recreant: frog.. exactly.... things cant exist to just exist

Friendly Frog: Mariner, that's like a museum too

Filthy Fluno: if it just was the gallery with my art hanging in there.. then it would have sucked ass

Friendly Frog: Is the gallery still around?

Filthy Fluno: no

Filthy Fluno: but it can be

Friendly Frog: was it only around as long as the RL art show?

Filthy Fluno: yes

Filthy Fluno: that was the deal with Jim

Friendly Frog: interesting

Filthy Fluno: he wanted it to come back

Filthy Fluno: but hasn't got back to me

Crap Mariner: Friendly - Yes, but a museum is also a dead space unless there's some kind of interaction. You can make a work of art "speak" and tell its history. you can demonstrate techniques of restoration. Walk through an Anamorphosis. Or explore an archaeological find as it WAS.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: hello Fourier, welcoeme to ARt Talk

Friendly Frog: We're actually doing an exhibition demonstrating techniques of restouration right now

Crap Mariner: Sure, you can see the Mona Lisa. How would you like to try to steal it? Throw paint on it? Pose just like it? Dress in an avatar like it?

Fourier Freschi: thanx

Fourier Freschi: gtg

Crap Mariner: Excellent... educational and informative. Lets people know that even artwork needs a dental checkup.

Friendly Frog: yeah, it's a good project

Friendly Frog: We work at the Indianapolis museum of art, and the project is called the Mainardi project

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: tell us more

Crap Mariner: cool

Friendly Frog: it's a cool project. the conservator is doing restorations in the educational galleries with auxillary information about radiography

Friendly Frog: techniques of conservation

Friendly Frog: a hands on cleaning project

Friendly Frog: a video

Friendly Frog: etc

Filthy Fluno: sweet

Friendly Frog: it is sweet

Friendly Frog: I don't work with the historic paintings but I appreciate the importance of htis information

Filthy Fluno: any thoughts of bringing that information into SL?

Friendly Frog: not after all the flak about museums in SL for sure

Filthy Fluno: ha

Filthy Fluno: you can do it right

Filthy Fluno: or wrong

Filthy Fluno: most of the people here can tell you the right way to do it

Crap Mariner: Wendy's had flak over red worms in their beef. They didn't go bankrupt.

Ariadne Recreant: Frog really, the idea here is to make an exhibit like you would in RL... it needs to be fun and interesting

Friendly Frog: Daniel wants to know if there are ANY examples of a museum being successfully engaged in second life

Friendly Frog: and what would be the criteria for success

Ariadne Recreant: if you ust throw up images on the wall, that would not be interesting of course

Filthy Fluno: frog

Filthy Fluno: i honestly don't know of any current RL museum being successful in SL

Friendly Frog: interesting

Filthy Fluno: i only have worked with one museum

Crap Mariner: The ability to collect up works of art from not just one artist, but all the artists they influenced in a single location.... in a timeline you can follow. That's something you cannot do in RL. But you can in SL.

Filthy Fluno: personally

Filthy Fluno: and when i brought them in like Big Car

Filthy Fluno: it was on a temporary basis

Filthy Fluno: but

Friendly Frog: can you follow the gestation of creative practice in SL more readily because its relatively newer?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I would think it would be hugely faster here.

Filthy Fluno: not sure i understnad that question

Friendly Frog: Because I'd imagine with more a dynamic, complex , and expanded population that would become as difficult as in RL

Crap Mariner: I believe so. Also, because it's possible to display progressive backups of the work in progress. And it's an accelerated evolution.

Friendly Frog: someone said it's easier to follow the trails of artistic influence in SL than in RL

Kelseigh Miranda: A virtual Greenwich Village

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: And I can never finish a piece, I always want to tweak it.

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I've even done that after the sale!

Friendly Frog: is it possible for us to archive this conversation to take with us after?

Friendly Frog: A progressive backup if you wil?

Filthy Fluno: yes frog

Filthy Fluno: i will provide that for you

Friendly Frog: We're really enjoying the opportunity to dialogue

Friendly Frog: thanks

Crap Mariner: Someone can certainly copy-paste the history of it. An advantage of text over Voice.

Friendly Frog: we'll sit back and let you guys continue your meeting

Friendly Frog: thanks

Filthy Fluno: no

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: big advantage Wake grumbles...

Filthy Fluno: contribute

Filthy Fluno: lol

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: oh, we're almost done, thank yo ustopping bye!

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: hello Adri, welcome to Art Talk

Filthy Fluno: hi adri

Kelseigh Miranda: Darned cats

Adri Saarinen: Ah, hello.

Filthy Fluno: pull up a prim

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ha Crap!

Crap Mariner: i think better this way

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Does anyone have anything else to add?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I don't mind ending 5 minutes early.

Filthy Fluno: i'll invite peeps to stay later if they want as well

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Oh of coruse!

Eizi Gustav: i ahve so much to say but i cant my english is bad :)

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I just turn into a pumpkin after an hour

Friendly Frog: can we afterparty at the vacant louvre?

Crap Mariner: i am usually expected for los arboles open mike when i am not getting hammered at the pub.

Filthy Fluno: lol

Friendly Frog: I mean guggenheim?

Filthy Fluno: lol

Crap Mariner: did you want to see the guggenheim 2.0?

Eizi Gustav: but its very interesting to listen

Filthy Fluno: nice froggy!

Ariadne Recreant: hahahaha

Friendly Frog: yes

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: 1 more thing folks

Filthy Fluno: yea.. let's go to the guggenheimlich!

Friendly Frog: well we knew ther was a louvre here too, lol

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: This is the last Art Talk at 5pm

Filthy Fluno: i hijacked the first louvre

Crap Mariner: freereed may have changed a few things, but we'll see.

Filthy Fluno: it was kinda great

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Next week I move to the new time of 6:30pm. Better for me, better for the west ceast USA, worse for Europeans

Crap Mariner: who will need a tp?

Friendly Frog: what do you mean by hijacked?

Filthy Fluno: hey guys... friend up with the frog

You have offered friendship to Friendly Frog

Crap Mariner: what i'll do is toss the landmark to filthy and he can toss it around

Ariadne Recreant: Thank you Frog :)

Filthy Fluno: why me?

Filthy Fluno: i'm lazy

Kelseigh Miranda: Hmm, I can't do 6:30, sadly

Filthy Fluno: and not very good

Friendly Frog: everyone is offering friendship and we missed the discussion about hijacking the louvre and all the rest of it

Ariadne Recreant: hahaha

Crap Mariner: hah ok... i'll go there, come abck, and pass it around. sheesh

Friendly Frog: can we get the transcript?

Adri Saarinen will be out of town next week, but hopefully will remember the /next/ week :D

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: what happened to the Louvre?????

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I just put it in the book, damn.

Adri Saarinen: And hopefully make it in time for the talk next time

Adri Saarinen: Now i'm offf again

Filthy Fluno: ok

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Yes ADri, that wolud be nice

Filthy Fluno: want the story of the louvre?

Adri Saarinen: byye, thanks for the tp, Filthy!

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: bye!

Filthy Fluno: seeya adri

Filthy Fluno: thanks for blipping in

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: yes, but we can take it offline later if you want.

Crap Mariner: ok. who needs the LM?

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Lets go on teh field trip

Filthy Fluno: yea

Ariadne Recreant: i would like it :)

Filthy Fluno: lets go

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: I do and I'll stay behind to catch straglers

Friendly Frog: we want to go but we need serious help getting there

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: so wait up for me

Friendly Frog: we dont even know how we got here

Filthy Fluno: friendly

Ariadne Recreant: hahahahaha

Crap Mariner gave you Newggenheim, Nowhereville (85, 83, 23).

Filthy Fluno: all you need to do is click on the transport

Friendly Frog: oh we got a location

Kelseigh Miranda: Magic, I would assume

Friendly Frog: thanks

Ariadne Recreant: hahahaha :)

Friendly Frog: we hope it gets us to the right place

Filthy Fluno: k

Filthy Fluno: stand up efore you go

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: ok, I have it, be gone all, I'll shut off the lights

Friendly Frog: see you there and nice to meet everyone who isn't coming along

Crap Mariner: i'm usually good about LMs

Crap Mariner salutes

Filthy Fluno: good work crap

PleaseWakeMeUp Idler: Friendly, do you need help getting there?

Filthy Fluno: its a mircale!

Friendly Frog: bye

Crap Mariner: i'm a crap mariner, but an excellent navigator

Friendly Frog: I think we're ok